Virgin birth

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Saint, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. Great Old One Registered Member

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    Mary became a virgin later in life when the authors and editors decided they needed to figure out how to make Jesus both divine and human. Obviously, Mary carried original sin and it just wouldn't do for Jesus-as-God to be born convicted of the crime for which He selflessly sacrifices Himself to absolve for all humanity.

    It takes a lot of work to turn Jesus's crucifixion into a sacrifice instead of a just payment for a crime.

    In my view, Jesus came to Earth and crucified Himself as payment towards a crime He imagined Himself committing.

    I give Him no credit for that.

    Christian: "Jesus died for your sins"
    Me: Good
     
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  3. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    Right now I'm not even so sure that there is such a thing as love.

    I mean maybe what we call love and intimacy between men and women is just a trick played by our animal brains in order to pass on our genes so that the human species could continue to exist and will not go extinct.

    If there really was such a thing as "love" then many women and men would not feel so unloved, lonely and rejected by the opposite sex.

    Maybe the shocking and uncomfortable truth is: Love really does not exist and is just a series of chemical reactions in our brain.
     
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  5. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    coupl'a things:

    1) as/re virgin birth:
    Try asking any guy about his mother's sexuality, her desires, favorite positions(did she prefer doggy style?), whether or not she was multiorgasmic, did she moan, or scream of say "yes" a lot, did she say "oh goddddd"
    And, it soon becomes obvious why a religion headed by men would have it's focus on a virgin birth.

    2) Love is assuring to the comfort of the beloved. When making the beloved comfortable makes you happy, congratulations, you've found love.

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    odd stuff
    Did Mary cry out "oh god" when she conceived?
    How, exactly, did "god" impregnate her?
     
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  7. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    He has. Just not in the Bible.

    jan.
     
  8. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Did Jesus have any illegitimate children? Was he not a lover?
     
  9. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    The New testament is not a biography book, but a book on how to live by.
    By the way did your mother tell the world how did she got pregnant ?
     
  10. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Are you thinking she may be a virgin too?
     
  11. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Well it will be hard to find something if you don't believe it exists.
    It may be our brain fooling us but what we experience is very real.
    When in love the object of your love is faultless.
    All I can suggest is be hopeful make the best of your appearance dress nicely present as tidy and clean and go out.
    Go to the shops, join a group go to church if a believer (maybe go even if you are not and do charitable work) get a cute little puppy that will stay cute and walk in the park, talk to everyone you meet presenting as friendly and when you meet girls treat them as people and talk about what are their interests.
    But please remain positive and get out of the house.
    Best wishes
    Alex
     
  12. Counter Registered Senior Member

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    ...Perhaps Mary was raped by her Father. The Bible certainly hints at such a thing: a gift was Frank incest.
     
  13. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    That is terrible.
    I felt so guilty laughing.

    I thought that Mary was called virgin or whatever in Hebrew which meant that she was merely unmarried... But it was in a book obviously written by the devil.
    Alex
     
  14. Counter Registered Senior Member

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    ...probably...
     
  15. surreptitious57 Registered Member

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    The Hebrew meaning of virgin is young woman not someone who has never had sex
     
  16. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Oh? Where, then?
     
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  19. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    When an ovum is being prepared for fertilization, the ovum's DNA duplicates, then 3/4 of the total DNA is extruded from the ovum; cortical cap, leaving behind 1/2 DNA. Normally, a sperm enters the ovum and adds its 1/2DNA, to make a set of full DNA.

    Why is it impossible for the needed 1/2DNA, to come from what was extruded by the ovum, to complete the DNA? The ovum has configurational potential, based on material composition and conformation, which should work with any compete set of DNA. The mother's DNA comes from her parents; male and female DNA, so she has male DNA, which is normally extruded.

    If Jesus was born by this version of a virgin birth, he would be unable to have children.



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  20. pluto2 Registered Senior Member

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    The more I think about it the more I realize that I will probably be a sexless virgin forever.

    My chance of ever getting a date or let alone sex from a good-looking girl is pretty much 0% unless I lower my standards significantly and have sex with an extremely ugly girl which I'm emotionally too damaged to do.

    I find it very hard to lower my standards in women after I have been emotionally abused by several people several times. Emotional abuse destroys everything because it's like a disease.

    I have been emotionally abused and have called ugly and nerdy several times.

    Some guy on the Internet also accused me of being a nerdy stalker after only showing interest in a girl like every normal guy would. He also said many other hurtful things to me and I think he said these things just to hurt my feelings.

    I'm pretty much a loner you know and statistics show that in the United States, only 11% of people (both male and female) after age 25 are still virgins.

    So the chances of me remaining a lonely virgin until a very very old age is very high.
     

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