Why most people is afraid of death?

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  1. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    If you have a near death experience you seem to instantly have access to all information.... in the universe / Multiverse...
    and many near death experiencers are coming back with testimonies relevant to the resurrection of Jesus.
     
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  3. Luchito Registered Senior Member

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    We can't.

    Judas was skeptical to the end, and he asked for an autopsy on Jesus... but nobody listened to him.
     
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  5. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Which Judas are you referring to?
    Judas committed suicide before Jesus resurrection.
     
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  7. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    There are also some special cases where poeple come back with some of "this information".
    I heard about poeple who suddenly were able to play piano or speak a new language.
     
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  8. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, Judas who resurected himself dident believed in Jesus resurection.
    Thats what we attend from "a judas".

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    No, let Judas in peace, we dont really know about him.
    He was Jesus favourite disciple who received the most secret teaching.
     
  9. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Helps with some references (blue colour LINKS)

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  10. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    I dont know how to insert a link to things i have heard about.

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    But you are right and i would react as you, this kind of "i heard about" affirmation is weak (furthermore, i dident verify myself the story of those peoples who claimed they were returned changed from NDE).

    Everybody want to go to heaven but nobody want to die.

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    So why people are scared of death (their own death) ?

    Very young i was not scared of death, because i strongly believed that if i would have some problem in my body, i would resist so as no to die (that sound simple).
    After that, i learned anatomy, and i became more skeptical about this possibility.
    Then a bit older, i had some fear of dying, for no reason because i never had any health problem, only because i imagined in some rational thinking that "i could no be" and this appeared to me very scary.
    "Not being" give me some "bad sensation" (so something in relation with emotion).

    Now that i experienced some NDE, i dont care about any more.
    Alive or death, i prefer to be alive of course (the habit perhaps, i like what i have and dont like the change), but i am not scared to just loose my old body.
    I think that it is the animal part of our body that is affraid of the death.
    Every animal is afraid of death, it is deeply inscribed to his body, like pain, pleasure, and other emotional states.

    Beatitude, by "taking things easy", by not having too much of anything, can perhaps help to tame our emotions.
    Emotions are bad if they determine our life (here per example if the scare of death hinder us to live).
     
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  11. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Couple of ways depending on how you came across this the stuff

    If you Googled - just put - Google Fred to learn more about Fred

    I do my post on mobile phone. When Google goes to a site the https appears across the top. If I long press a small notice appears saying link copied. Then go back to where/whatever you are typing and paste it
    And computer https appears along the top of the tab much same - long press highlights the link - copy / paste

    Hope that helps

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  12. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Do you believe resurrection?
    And Judgement Day?
    Did Jesus really resurrect?
    Christians argued that if Jesus did not resurrect, his disciples will not fear no death and spread the gospels.
    There will be no Christianity.
     
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  13. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Yes... there is logic in that argument....
    I also am impressed by the clarity and simplicity of the message that people have who have claimed that they
    had a near death experience in which they reviewed their life with a being of light who they think was probably Jesus......
    Sometimes this being of light plainly tells them who he is... .but other times no name is given.

    Assuming that the first Intelligence evolved and learned over infinite time in the past......
    in fundamental or nearly fundamental energy.....
    this would imply in a sense that infinite time and effort went into making the human spirit, soul and body.......

    it would seem like quite a waste of time and effort on inventing the human spirit, soul and body.... if there was no
    resurrection of some type??????

    If we humans were to create a full fledged android with A.I. capability..... would we also be able to make a second or third or fourth one????
    Could these hypothetical androids with A. I. technology...... start off as being essentially identical????

    Could these A. I. androids develop a different personality of sorts as they each faced different input of information.....
    and therefore responded differently to the input that it faced?

    Is there any logic whatsoever in the movie Jurassic Park? Are we humans already capable of in a sense "resurrecting" prehistoric creatures if
    in fact their DNA was preserved somehow into our time period?

    Deep under the ice pack of Antarctica leaps to mind when it comes to ancient DNA being preserved into the modern era.
     
  14. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    Yes... one of the first articles that I ever read on near death experiences was actually in
    Psychology Today.

    They made a rather powerful argument that something quite unusual seemed to be happening to people who had a near death experience.

    Bright Lights, Big Mystery | Psychology Today


    Dr. Melvin Morse referred to a study where NDE accounts were read by one group of people who had attempted suicide in the past and zero people from that group attempted suicide again during the duration of the study that he referred to.
     
  15. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    NDE maybe is due to brain's reaction before completely death, it is not reality.
     
  16. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    Not reality... It is not death you mean ?
    Yes surely, nobody come back from the death (your spirit can not "reintégrate" the damaged dead body).
     
  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    It doesn't promise that. Humans aren't "special" at all, in evolutionary terms.

    No. That's not how evolution works. More complex isn't always evolutionarily "better" than simple. If that were true, there would be no single-celled bacteria around today, for instance, and the world (even your body) is full of single-celled bacteria.

    "Inferior" and "superior" in evolution are determined by the environment. Organisms that are well adapted to their environments tend to do better, in survival terms, than organisms that are less well adapted.

    Before attempting to criticise the theory of evolution, you ought to at least try to learn what the theory is about.
     
  18. Dicart Registered Senior Member

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    In evolutionary term for Humans, but not for Mankind (Extraterrestrial human-like beings would be part of Mankind too (if we would know them)).
    Using a religious approach, Mankind is special.

    I agree, every living form that is actually on Earth has equal value.
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    You really do not listen to yourselves do you?

    I am including the others who came to the forum about same moment as yourself

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  20. Hermann Registered Senior Member

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    I am quite sure, that there is an exiting afterlife! Therefore at an age of 86 I am looking forward to die in a relativ near future.
    Reasons for this are my own evaluations described in the blogspot below:
    http://rational-weltanschauung.blogspot.com
    There is also a very interesting book from William Buhlman „Adventures in the Afterlife“, which explains very clearly, what we can expect after death.
    William Buhlman is highly experienced in OBE = Out of Body Experience, where he could observe, what most people will experience after death.
    If you don‘t believe in OBE, there is also another very interesting book from Bob Olson „Answers about the Afterlife“. Bob was a skeptic as most of you. But 15 years research only by contacting many psychic mediums changed his mind. His book is now quite conform with the book of William Buhlman although the sources could not be more different!
     
  21. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    We just about opposite... cause i dont have a beleif in afterlife an i ant lookin forward to die at any age.!!!
     
  22. Hermann Registered Senior Member

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    Seth was in my opinion the most advanced and most intelligent speaker from the spiritual world, while he spoke through Jane Roberts.
    He has dictated his own book „Seth Speaks“, where he wrote in the Appendix at the end of session 594 following: „Christ was not crucified and Judas did not betray him“ - this questions the resurrection!
     
  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    And the above claims are backed up and corroborated with?????

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