why we need ghosts

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by birch, Feb 27, 2016.

  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    What we have here is some rescue workers who heard a voice which they believe to be coming from inside the car.

    This is not exactly an inexplicable event - after all there were two living people in the car. OK, so one died and the other fell unconscious before they got in.

    We can debate about the veracity of events, and the details - but nothing in this accounting even remotely points toward anything paranormal, let alone ghosts.


    Again, the fact that it passes your personal litmus test, says nothing about whether it has enough evidence to warrant any more serious consideration.

    So, what else do we got?
     
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  3. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    LOL! You're insane..
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    They there. Misquoting malfesance is afoot...

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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    A trollish thing to say. If you've nothing to contribute, keep it to yourself.

    People outside the car won't know if someone inside were unconscious until they actually got to them.
    That's kind of sanity.
     
  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Actually there was one dead body in the car and an unconscious baby. 4 rescue workers heard cries for help from the car and one such cry was recorded on a body cam. The cries were clear enough to get the 4 workers to all lift the overturned car on its side, at which time a worker crawled on top and found the baby inside. This is what happened. There is no denying it. Moving on.
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Not until the rescuers found them there weren't.

    What they heard and when they got the the victims are two events separated in time - as evidenced in the video.
     
  10. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    The baby was unconscious. It had been in the car for 48 hours hanging upside down and suffering hypothermia. Those are the facts of the case.
     
  11. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes there were. They had been in the car for 48 hours. The mother was quite dead and the baby was unconscious before the car was lifted out of the water. You skeptics will make up any shit to get out of believing in the paranormal.
     
  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    The baby was not known to be unconscious until it was reached by the workers.
    To suggest anything else is to spin a yarn.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    None of which indicates when they stopped being able to call out.
     
  14. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Bullshit. The baby was already unconscious before they got to it. You're just making shit up again. Besides, an 18 month old baby doesn't know to cry for help in a desperate situation. And the voice was a woman's voice, not a baby's. So no..no conscious baby calling for help inside the car.
     
  15. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    You're as insane as billvon.
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Right. You believe in ghosts calling rescuers and I'm insane.
    You are making shit up because you really, really want to believe in ghosts.

    Unfortunately, even a strong desire to believe in something does not make that something true.
     
  17. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    The facts of the case prove otherwise. Ghosts actually exist. Get used to it.
     
  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    More embellishment. Shame.

    Unless the rescue workers have X-ray vision, I state incontrovertible fact. They did not know the state of the victims until they found them.

    Your personal opinion on that is trumped by actual 18-month toddlers speaking in coherent sentences.

    You know perfectly well that there is no way they can know that.

    That's enough MR. You've stated your opinion on what you think it is. In light of critical analysis it is simply insufficient evidence of anything ghostly - to anyone but you and some people who want you to watch their video. You can't make others see things as you do.

    Best this is is mysterious. Nothing here points to any paranormal explanation whatsoever.


    Find something compelling next time.
     
  19. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Troll along now troll..
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I forbid you from using words whose meaning you apparently do not understand.
     
  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. There is no "fact" that states the toddler was unconscious. Your fervent desire for it to be so does not make it a fact.
    They may well exist. This is certainly no proof.
     
  22. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    You know this will be mis quoted in the future?

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  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Of course. This is MR we are talking about.
     

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