X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.

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  1. Green_World Banned Banned

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    Women's breasts are important sexual objects according to the bible:

    The Bible in numerous places teaches us about women's breasts and talks about them at the same time it is talking about sexual fantasies and intercourse.

    Comparing the sister's breasts to the size of the towers: Let us look at the following verses: "We have a young sister, and her breasts are not yet grown. What shall we do for our sister for the day she is spoken for? (Song of Songs 8:8)"
    and later about the sister....."I am a wall, and my breasts are like towers. Thus I have become in his eyes like one bringing contentment. (Song of Songs 8:10)"

    Let us look at Song of Songs 4:5 " Your two breasts are like two fawns, like twin fawns of a gazelle that browse among the lilies."

    Let us look at Proverbs 5:19 " A loving doe, a graceful deer, may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be captivated by her love Could it be meant to say "may her breasts sexually satisfy you"?

    Let us look at Song of Songs 1:13 " My lover is to me a sachet of myrrh resting between my breasts "

    Praising the bed that they had sex on: : Let us look at Song of Songs 1:16 "How handsome you are, my lover! Oh, how charming! And our bed is verdant"

    Having sex all night long: Let us look at Proverbs 7:18 "Come, let's drink deep of love till morning; let's enjoy ourselves with love!"

    Let us look at Song of Songs 1:2-4 "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine. Pleasing is the fragrance of your perfumes; your name is like perfume poured out. No wonder the maidens love you! Take me away with you--let us hurry! Let the king bring me into his chambers. We rejoice and delight in you; we will praise your love more than wine. How right they are to adore you! " I don't think this would be appropriate for a kid under 18 to read. Also, I don't think it is appropriate to have such open sexuality in a divine book anyway.

    His right arm sexually feeling her body : Let us look at Song of Songs 2:6 "His left arm is under my head, and his right arm embraces me."

    Let us look at Song of Songs 3:4 "Scarcely had I passed them when I found the one my heart loves. I held him and would not let him go till I had brought him to my mother's house, to the room of the one who conceived me." So in other words, she was not married to him, and when she found him, she took him back to her bed room to have illegal sex with him? If she were married to him, she wouldn't take him to her "mother's house". She would take him to their house.

    Let us look at Song of Songs 3:10 "Its posts he made of silver, its base of gold. Its seat was upholstered with purple, its interior lovingly inlaid by the daughters of Jerusalem." Why does the Bible teach young men to spend all of their time and effort to try to impress all of the girls in their town so they can possibly end in bed with them?

    Fantasizing about a girl he calls his "sister ': Her vagina tastes like wine for him. And they had sex all night long. After he satisfied her really good, she wished if he were her brother (her biological brother nursed by her "mother's breast" as she said) so she doesn't have to take him home secretly:

    Note: Even though she may not be his biological sister, but calling her a "sister" in a pornographic and sick situation as shown in details below is not proper, and may suggest that the sick pervert would fantasize about his biological sister if he had one, especially after knowing that Sarah (Isaac's mother) was Abraham's biological sister in the Bible.

    Let us look at Song of Songs 4:9 "You have stolen my heart, my sister, my bride; you have stolen my heart with one glance of your eyes, with one jewel of your necklace." Fantasizing about his sister? at least he shows in this verse that he would!.

    Let us look at Song of Songs 4:10 "How delightful is your love, my sister, my bride! How much more pleasing is your love than wine, and the fragrance of your perfume than any spice!" Making love to his own sister? "pleasing is your love (making???) than wine"?

    Let us look at Song of Songs 4:12 "You are a garden locked up, my sister, my bride; you are a spring enclosed, a sealed fountain."

    Sleeping with his sister :

    Let us look at Song of Songs 5:4 "I slept but my heart was awake. Listen! My lover is knocking: 'Open to me, my sister, my darling, my dove, my flawless one. My head is drenched with dew, my hair with the dampness of the night.' I have taken off my robe [showed off his groin in other words] must I put it on again? I have washed my feet, must I soil them again? My lover thrust his hand through the latch-opening; my heart began to pound for him." What a disgusting way for someone to talk so pervertly about his sister like that!!.

    Let us look at Song of Songs 5:8 "O daughters of Jerusalem, I charge you-- if you find my lover, what will you tell him? Tell him I am faint with love." Teaching women to be sexually too open.

    Her vagina tastes like wine :

    "How beautiful your sandaled feet, O prince's daughter! Your graceful legs are like jewels, the work of a craftsman's hands. Your navel is a rounded goblet that never lacks blended wine. Your waist is a mound of wheat encircled by lilies. Your breasts are like two fawns, twins of a gazelle. Your neck is like an ivory tower. Your eyes are the pools of Heshbon by the gate of Bath Rabbi.
    .......
    I said 'I will climb the palm tree; I will take hold of its fruit.' May your breasts be like the clusters of the vine, the fragrance of your breath like apples, and your mouth like the best wine. (The NIV Bible, Song of Songs 7:1-4, 8-9)"

    After reading all the above verses, can any on really believe that the bible is the true word of God ??

    Conclusion: the bible is false book full of errors, contradictions and obscenities.
     
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  3. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    How do you know God didn't just have a lotta sex?

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    Maybe, God being omniscient, he got confused, and transcribed/dictated what he'd just been eavesdropping on, rather than how we're meant to live life.

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  5. williamwbishop Registered Senior Member

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    Generally I'm a fan of yours, but you're kind of reaching on some of that.

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    An X Rated King Solomon For Kids

    It always facinates me to leaf through the myriad volumes of Bible stories for children that populate every bookstore. The familiar fable King Solomon's wisdom invariably appears in each and every collection, but the severly sanitized adaptation bears very little resemblance to the original text as found in 1 Kings 3:16-28. In the very unlikely event that I might decide to write an X-Rated Bibles Stories for Children some day, here is how the popular parable might unfold:

    King Solomon and the Little Bastard

    Once upon a time, there was a very wise man, King Solomon. The king was very rich. In fact, he had so much money that he married 700 wives and he also had 300 concubines. A concubine was a women who lived with a man without being married to him. Today, if a man and a women live together without being married, we say that they are living in sin because they are guilty of fornication. Fornication is having sex with someone you are not married to, but God doesn't want us to do that anymore.

    Also, today, if you have more then one wife or husband, you are called a bigamist and bigamy is again the law. And of course, if your daddy cheats n my mommy and has a secret girlfriend, or if your mommy cheats on your daddy and has a secret boyfriend, that is called adultry, and God doesn't want us to do that either. The bible tells us that if people commit adultry, we should throw stones at them and kill them because God thinks it is much better to murder someone than to commit adultry.

    Now, in Solomon's day, it was OK to have as many wives as you could afford to support because that was the time of the Old Dispensation which was God's plan A for the world. But today, we are living under the New Dispensation which is also know as God's plan B.

    One day, two prostitutes came to see King Solomon. A prostitute is a women who sells her body for sex, and God never want us to do that. These two women brought a baby boy with them who was illegitimate. This means that no one knew for sure who the father for the child was. Since these two prostitutes had sex with so many different men, they could never know for sure which one of those men made them pregnant. Being pregnant means that their belly swelled up and got very big with a baby developing inside.

    But this little bastard (another word for a child who's parents never got married) had a double problem. Not only was their doubt about who his father was, there also some doubt as to which of the two prostitutes was his mother.

    One of the whores (another word for a prostitute) explained to the king that she and the other whore lived together in the same house. The first prostitute had a baby just three days before the other one also gave birth. But the second whore's baby dies one night when she accidently rolled over on it while asleep and smothered it to death. Then she got up and stole the baby from the other mother while she was sound asleep and put the corpse of her dead son in place of the living child.

    When the first mother awoke and was ready to nurse her son with the milk from her breast, she realized that the dead infant was not hers and she accused the other whore of kidnapping (child stealing).

    As the two prostitutes argued back and forth before King Solomon, each one claimed to be the real mother of the little bastard. The king asked for a sword because he was going to cut the living child in two pieces and give one half to each of them. The women who cried out and begged him not to do that, turned out to be the real mother.

    When the people heard about Solomon's decision for the two prostitutes and their little bastard, they soon realized what a really wise king they had.

    Now boys and girls, wasn't that a wonderful story?

    Source: The X-Rated Bible - An Irreverent Survey
    of Sex in the Sciptures by Ben Edward Akerley
     
  8. Green_World Banned Banned

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    Re: Re: X-Rated Pornography in the Bible.

    That's what you get when you believe God is MAN( CHRISTIAN HERESY) but if you believe GOD is something higher than man and has different nature than MAN like ALLAH almighty for example then you will get illuminating religion called Islam.
     
  9. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    So to you Love=Sex? Sorry, thats just saying "We like to party! Lets all get drunk!"

    Green_World, you need to read each story in the bible and examine them as a whole, not as individual passages.
     
  10. Firefly Registered Senior Member

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    Well, we all know God had sex (metaphysically or however

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    ). I mean, you know. Jesus.
     
  11. Binary Registered Senior Member

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    Great point, Counsler! The bible is not literal in the traditonal sense. In the song of "Solomon" it isn't even speaking about a natural women. Also that NIV is quite a bit off. If your going to use the english bible, atleast use the standard KJV. Take a look at the difference.

    Song of Solomon, chapter 1

    2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine.
    3 Because of the savour of thy good ointments thy name is as ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love thee.
    4 Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee.

    13 A bundle of myrrh is my well-beloved unto me; he shall lie all night betwixt my breasts.

    16 Behold, thou art fair, my beloved, yea, pleasant: also our bed is green.

    Song of Solomon, chapter 2

    6 His left hand is under my head, and his right hand doth embrace me.

    Song of Solomon, chapter 4

    5 Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins, which feed among the lilies.

    9 Thou hast ravished my heart, my sister, my spouse; thou hast ravished my heart with one of thine eyes, with one chain of thy neck.
    10 How fair is thy love, my sister, my spouse! how much better is thy love than wine! and the smell of thine ointments than all spices!

    12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

    Song of Solomon, chapter 3

    4 It was but a little that I passed from them, but I found him whom my soul loveth: I held him, and would not let him go, until I had brought him into my mother's house, and into the chamber of her that conceived me.

    10 He made the pillars thereof of silver, the bottom thereof of gold, the covering of it of purple, the midst thereof being paved with love, for the daughters of Jerusalem.

    Song of Solomon, chapter 5

    4 My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him.

    8 I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, if ye find my beloved, that ye tell him, that I am sick of love

    Song of Solomon, chapter 7

    1 How beautiful are thy feet with shoes, O prince's daughter! the joints of thy thighs are like jewels, the work of the hands of a cunning workman.
    2 Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies.
    3 Thy two breasts are like two young roes that are twins.
    4 Thy neck is as a tower of ivory; thine eyes like the fishpools in Heshbon, by the gate of Bathrabbim: thy nose is as the tower of Lebanon which looketh toward Damascus.

    8 I said, I will go up to the palm tree, I will take hold of the boughs thereof: now also thy breasts shall be as clusters of the vine, and the smell of thy nose like apples;
    9 And the roof of thy mouth like the best wine for my beloved, that goeth down sweetly, causing the lips of those that are asleep to speak.

    Song of Solomon, chapter 8

    8 We have a little sister, and she hath no breasts: what shall we do for our sister in the day when she shall be spoken for?
    9 If she be a wall, we will build upon her a palace of silver: and if she be a door, we will inclose her with boards of cedar.
    10 I am a wall, and my breasts like towers: then was I in his eyes as one that found favour.

    Not only that, but it also paints quite a different picture if you read all the verses that you exempted. I'm pretty sure if some told only part of most anything, they could make it look bad if they wanted. Verses are only for markings, it dosen't mean that the words in them are independant of the rest of the chapter or book.
     
  12. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    That's what you get when you believe God is MAN( CHRISTIAN HERESY) but if you believe GOD is something higher than man and has different nature than MAN like ALLAH almighty for example then you will get illuminating religion called Islam.

    Hi,

    it is my understanding that you are muslim, so what is this foolishnes you are portraying.

    Why do you think it is customary for muslim women to wear veils in public?

    A womans beauty, partly lies, superficially in her breasts, this is why women all over the world want to get boob jobs, to increase
    their atractive qualities.

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    It also lies in there hair and is especially attractive when it falls loose over their face, also her shyness, which is observed with the movement of the eyes. Another naturally attractive feature is women playing sport or games (especially in times gone by), this way you get to see the bodily form, hopefully a thin waste, broad hips and bouncing breasts.

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    This is not pornographic, it is natural, and leads men into a whole lot of trouble if they cannot control their senses.

    When Moses was on the mount talking to God/Allah, what happened when he descended?
    What were those people doing.
    Was any of those people descendants of Muslims?

    My point here is, be careful what you are saying, regardless of whether the bible has been tampered with or not, it is books of truth and should be respected as such.
    Mohammad (pbuh) showed Jesus and his mother the greatest respect by leaving their picture on the wall, while tearing down false idols.

    When you attack christianity in the way you are doing, you are seriously hurting yourself and your relationship with Allah, just by talking foolishness.
    You give power to the blasphemers who delight in such dis-accordance, you make it easy for them to critisize religion and Allah.
    You should know blasphemy to be a serious offence, and that does not disclude the person who inspires it.

    Obviously you cannot stop people from saying what they like, but try not to encourage it.

    I apologise if it seems i am telling you off, but i do not see the point in coming to a forum like this as a religous person, and tear into anothr religion with such points which only serve to belittle another religion.

    There are enough people who do that 24/7.

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    Love

    Jan Ardena.
     
  13. sycoindian myxomatosis> Registered Senior Member

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    lets hear it blackstone...

    for the sake of knowledge

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  14. spookz Banned Banned

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    color me christian!
    out with hustler and in with the bible!
    i am converting!

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  15. Slacker47 Paint it Black Registered Senior Member

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    This is a childish way to attack the Bible. Historically, breasts have always been a symbol of love, security, and a source of life. I am an atheist, and I still believe this is VERY far-fetched. CC is right, read the passages as a whole. I think you will see the point then. The Bible is a very powerful book, dont distort it.
     
  16. Green_World Banned Banned

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    Well you dont need to be theologian to understand the OBSCENETIES in the bible.
     
  17. Green_World Banned Banned

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    I am NOT distorting the bible, I am QUOTING from it. I have quoted a lot of verses which shows DISGUSTING OBSCENETIES.

    How you can defend a book that promotes sex with the SISTER ?

    How you can defend ABSURD book which talks about Her vagina tastes like wine' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  19. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    can i just say that if you took out that WE asociate breasts with sex and went back to there actully PURPOSE (ie suckling babys) it doesnt seem that pornographic to me

    i mean is UDDER a sexual word?

    it IS the breast of a cow

    its just humanity asociates breasts with sex and therefor breasts arnt to be talked about

    other cultures associate it with motherhood and hence saying breast means nothing
     
  20. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    Back then you didn't have sex with your sister. When people would Marry in the old days, a certain percentage of what you owned would go to the person that your marrying.

    That's why most marriages were between brother and sister, or brother and cousin, to keep the money in the family. Now, they knew what incest was, this was more of a political alliance then "Oh oh, she's my sister, Im going to marry her... Just so I can have sex with her!" It was more like: "Oh yuck! I have to marry my sister! Oh well, it doesn't mean that we have to have sex! It just means that I can have sex with concubines! As many as I want!"

    I would like to see this passage for myself. Like I said before, read the bible stories as a whole, not as individual sentences.
     
  21. Zero Banned Banned

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    Claiming that the Song of Solomon is Xrated porn is a very whatsupyall-ish version of attacking. Nice try, green Green.

    Good way to introduce yourself to sciforums as a new member. I'm sure we're all enthralled by your amazing powers of persuading.
     
  22. Binary Registered Senior Member

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    :bugeye: How can you marry a woman that's not your sister? We are of the same blood, meaning a common heritage. If you take in to account that we came from common parents (Adam eve), then the only way for children to "multiple" would be through the marrying of their sisters. What so sick about marying your sister? To answer that take the point of veiw of a parent to their children.

    Mathew, chapter 22

    Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
    38 This is the first and great commandment.
    39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
     
  23. Green_World Banned Banned

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    But some hadiths are weak and some are authentic, you can made up any hadith you want and claim to be from the great prophet.

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