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Misogyny?
Yep.

Where in the US?
It's happening everywhere, really.

We are 330 million inhabitants, how many cases of misogyny are you talking about? How much percent in the entire population?
Cases?

This is necessary to be known.
As stated above, sexism/misogyny is everywhere, even though it may be unsaid or unseen. I think that there are strides (legal and social changes) being made to rail against it, but ...it's still there. Even on this forum. Even in this thread. :redface:
 
Yep.

It's happening everywhere, really.

Cases?

As stated above, sexism/misogyny is everywhere, even though it may be unsaid or unseen. I think that there are strides (legal and social changes) being made to rail against it, but ...it's still there. Even on this forum. Even in this thread. :redface:
I guess perhaps you confuse mockery or indifference towards women as misogyny.

This is the reason you just generalize the situation and can't go to specifics to validate your point.
 
I guess perhaps you confuse mockery or indifference towards women as misogyny.

This is the reason you just generalize the situation and can't go to specifics to validate your point.
Mockery towards women would be misogyny wouldn't it?
 
Already done that
No, you haven't.

You have accused her of false accusation for misogyny. But that is clearly incorrect as you are a misogynist and a sexist bigot to boot. Clearly it cannot be that.

So perhaps you can show exactly where she made false accusations against you?

Not if they’re being emotional
She wasn't being emotional.

Which begs the question. Why accuse her of being emotional when she was not being emotional?

Do you do this to women often, Jan?

If they don't behave as you want them to, or they aren't saying what you want them to say, do you simply just dismiss them for being emotional?

Why are you a liar Bells?
Show me where I am lying, Jan.

And you failed to answer the question. Why are you being so sexist?

You’re in full agreement of a lie
Who is lying? Wegs isn't. I am not.

You are posting misogynist and sexist things (not to mention bigoted and at times racist comments).

So I'll ask again, who is lying and where?

In this thread
Where in this thread? She said your posts were misogynistic and they are, as all of us have pointed out.

You brought belief up
Did I? Are you sure?

You believe that misogyny is interchangeable with masculinity.

You believe that misogyny is interchangeable with masculinity.
Don’t tell me what I believe.

Don’t tell me what I believe.

You've been spouting what you believe for 66 pages now.

From your words, we are all able to see you as sexist and a misogynist.

The irony is that you have spent these past 66 pages trying to tell Wegs what she should believe.

Why do you have to be so dishonest, Jan?

Please answer. If you've forgotten, here it is again:

You tell me. You're the one who seems convinced that you and apparently others, can somehow set her straight...
Stop trying to change the topic and respond to what you are being asked.

But you are
Are you now saying that I did not link your posts directly?

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/religion-and-women.163938/page-41#post-3663401

Why are you lying, Jan?
You literally lied
I literally did not. Here is that post again, where I linked all of your posts, up to page 10 because it's quite nauseating having to wade through your sexism and misogyny, Jan:

http://www.sciforums.com/threads/religion-and-women.163938/page-41#post-3663401

Stop being do dishonest and stop trolling to avoid answering.

You’re interpreting my words
No no, Jan. Please, take another 60 or so pages explaining to us how the woman must serve her husband, 'the man', because that is what God intended?

See. You lie.
Why the need to lie?
Show me how that is a lie?

Are you telling me that you didn't go on a little spiel about how you, James, Billvon and apparently I, could help Wegs in some way, shape or form? You know, since she surprised you so much.. What's the matter, don't like it when a woman ignores you?

That God is Male is neither law, nor behaviour.
Why did you avoid the entire question?

Do you approve of stoning one's sons to death for disobedience, Jan?

The Bible also says that daughters should be killed for pre-marital sex. Would you do it? After all, it's in the bible and you believe it is a good authority in regards to behaviour.

Because I want to know. Why won't you answer it?

Idid.
It means exactly what it says.
What don’t you understand?
I am seeking clarification, Jan.

Why did you word it that way? Was it because you don't believe that she knows masculine men who are not misogynists? Or were you trying to shame her for knowing men who are not misogynists?

As of to say did you really?
Do you have a problem with that?
No. I'm asking you why you did it.

Why can't you answer why you worded it that way and posted it in that way?

What misogyny and sexism?
Already explained and linked. Numerous times now.

Whether you believe that is the case or not is not my problem. Guilty people rarely admit their guilt. You won't be the first, nor the last, to claim innocence despite all proof to the contrary.

You have lied numerous time, that is correct
You keep saying this but you have yet to show where I have lied and about what.

Meanwhile, you attributed things to me that were clearly not the case (such as when you claimed I had shown no proof or evidence of your misogyny, or when you accused me of bringing belief into it, when I clearly had not).

You’re problem thus far has been your aversion to the truth
As I have noted, Jan. Whether you believe you are a misogynist or not is really not my problem. That you are one on this site is my problem.

The lie is established with you because of your problem explained above.
That's the problem. You haven't really explained anything. You refuse to answer questions while demanding others provide evidence and then you ignore said evidence and keep demanding more. Your issue is that we aren't lying.
 
And Madonna.....

:)
user pays society
no money no rights
no money no morals
need money to buy rights to be rich enough to afford morals
the minority poor have no moral equity in affordable human rights
can you afford to be poor in a user pays capitalist society ?


... the product versus the culture


"i say that's ok"

"if they don't give me proper credit, i just walk away"

... a material world with a virgin complex addiction.
viginaphiles
normalized and functionalised through materialistic consumer addiction

Jesus wept ...

but did Jesus know what its like to be pregnant & single with no money or possessions or income or health insurance ?
 
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I guess perhaps you confuse mockery or indifference towards women as misogyny.

This is the reason you just generalize the situation and can't go to specifics to validate your point.
You can start from before the witch trials, where thousands of women were murdered by a patriarchal society that deemed them to be evil for not conforming to said patriarchal ideals, right down through to the incel mass killings and the thousands of cases of domestic violence affecting women, and I'm not even touching on the misogynistic laws that attempt to control women's bodies and our reproductive cycles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist_terrorism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogyny
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2019/06/domestic-violence-misogyny-incels-mass-shootings/
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/exhibition/confrontingviolence/materials/OB11560.pdf
 
This ongoing trolling is a breach of our site posting guidelines. Please avoid this behaviour in future.
So perhaps you can show exactly where she made false accusations against you?
Already done that
Which begs the question. Why accuse her of being emotional when she was not being emotional?
What a silly question.
Show me where I am lying, Jan.
Your whole dialogue with me for starters
And you failed to answer the question. Why are you being so sexist?
I’m not sexist
Why are you lying?
Who is lying? Wegs isn't. I am not.
You are
You are posting misogynist and sexist things (not to mention bigoted and at times racist comments).

So I'll ask again, who is lying and where?
Where are these posts you falsely accuse me of posting?

Your lying, here
Where in this thread?
All over this thread
Did I? Are you sure?
Yes
She said your posts were misogynistic and they are, as all of us have pointed out.
She did say that, but she the accusation was false, and you all jumped on the bandwagon
Why do you have to be so dishonest, Jan?
I’m afraid you’re the one with the problem of dishonesty Bells
Stop trying to change the topic and respond to what you are being asked.
Where have I changed the subject?
Are you now saying that I did not link your posts directly?
No. I’m saying you cannot show that I am a misogynist, or that my posts contain evidence of misogyny, no matter how hard you try:D
I literally did not. Here is that post again, where I linked all of your posts, up to page 10 because it's quite nauseating having to wade through your sexism and misogyny, Jan:
All your lies were exposed, and your misunderstandings rebutted and/or corrected.
You need to deal with my response to that post instead of this pitiful display of trying to gain the upper-hand.
No no, Jan. Please, take another 60 or so pages explaining to us how the woman must serve her husband, 'the man', because that is what God intended?
Why don’t you read the book of Corinthians yourself? That way you’ll get the correct idea of what you’re trying to put across. Also you won’t need to go through another 60 pages
Show me how that is a lie?
It is based on a false accusation, without any evidence to validate it, and is being peddled as true. You’re problem is you have an aversion to the truth, and it is evidenced in all of your posts and responses to me
Are you telling me that you didn't go on a little spiel about how you, James, Billvon and apparently I, could help Wegs in some way, shape or form?
No I didn’t go on a spiel, little or big.
I said we could help her overcome her problem
But it was clearly irony, as the people I mentioned all suffer with the same problem as you, and her. An aversion to the truth
I’m quite surprised you didn’t get the irony
Or maybe you did, but try to use it to your lying advantage . Not a good choice

Why did you avoid the entire question?
Because it had nothing to do with the discussion
Why did you ask it?
Do you approve of stoning one's sons to death for disobedience, Jan?
What does this have to do with the discussion?
The Bible also says that daughters should be killed for pre-marital sex.
Bring up the scripture
Let’s have at it
Why did you word it that way? Was it because you don't believe that she knows masculine men who are not misogynists?
As she has proven herself to be a liar in this thread, I find it hard to believe most of what she says.
So I take what she says with a pinch of salt
No. I'm asking you why you did it.
Did what?
Why can't you answer why you worded it that way and posted it in that way?
I did answer why
Whether you believe that is the case or not is not my problem.
You’re right
Your problem is having an aversion to the truth, and is way more serious
Guilty people rarely admit their guilt. You won't be the first, nor the last, to claim innocence despite all proof to the contrary.
People with an aversion to the truth feel no way about making false allegations.
You keep saying this but you have yet to show where I have lied and about what.
Already done that
Meanwhile, you attributed things to me that were clearly not the case (such as when you claimed I had shown no proof or evidence of your misogyny, or when you accused me of bringing belief into it, when I clearly had not).
You haven’t shown any proof that wegs false accusations are not false .
I’m still waiting.
You refuse to answer questions while demanding others provide evidence and then you ignore said evidence and keep demanding more.
Where have refused to answer questions that have anything to do with the discussion?
Where is your “proof”?
Or do you think laying out quotes, interpreting, them, and giving outright lying responses to them, constitute proof.
Look forward to our next cosy chat
 
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Misogyny?

Where in the US?

We are 330 million inhabitants, how many cases of misogyny are you talking about? How much percent in the entire population?

This is necessary to be known.
Let’s she if she falsely accuses you of being a misogynist
 
You can start from before the witch trials, where thousands of women were murdered by a patriarchal society that deemed them to be evil for not conforming to said patriarchal ideals,
The witch trial were hatred of witches, not women. Not all the people deemed witches were women.
About eighty people were accused of practicing witchcraft in a witch-hunt that lasted throughout New England from 1647 to 1663. Thirteen women and two men were executed. The Salem witch trials followed in 1692–93, culminating in the executions of 20 people. Five others died in jail.

Poor you:(
Wrong again:frown:
 
The witch trial were hatred of witches, not women. Not all the people deemed witches were women.
About eighty people were accused of practicing witchcraft in a witch-hunt that lasted throughout New England from 1647 to 1663. Thirteen women and two men were executed. The Salem witch trials followed in 1692–93, culminating in the executions of 20 people. Five others died in jail.

Poor you:(
Wrong again:frown:
Have you ever been a witch? Just curious.
 
The witch trial were hatred of witches, not women.

Nope.

About eighty people were accused of practicing witchcraft in a witch-hunt that lasted throughout New England from 1647 to 1663. Thirteen women and two men were executed. The Salem witch trials followed in 1692–93, culminating in the executions of 20 people. Five others died in jail.

Poor you:(
Wrong again:frown:

The population of the U.S. in the 1660s was approximately 75 thousand; global population was over 500 million. Surely you're aware that there were witch trials elsewhere, yes?
 
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