I won't respond individually to replies, however, I'll just make the point that as stated in other threads my two rules for critical thinking are:
1. Aim to prove your hypothesis wrong
2. Stick to the irrefutable facts in the first analysis
When putting forward claims as irrefutable, the critical thinker shows they have consulted refutational material. Of course, they may be unaware of it but no critical thinker would be unaware of that put forward for 9/11. No responder has even acknowledged refutational material let alone shown they have engaged with it in a serious manner. One example, the disputed authenticity of the phone calls - see
https://www.consensus911.org/the-911-consensus-points/#Phone1
Interestingly, the irrefutable facts in 10 points I now put forward have not been challenged as far as I know because they’re not typical of facts put forward by critics of the mainstream narrative so, in this case, acknowledgement of opposing material is moot but regardless you can, of course, do both or either of:
- Dispute that my stated facts are irrefutable
- Argue that my facts don’t support the hypothesis implied
1.
Dead and injured: We are told that 2,997 and over 6,000 were injured on 9/11 (figures vary).
https://en.as.com/latest_news/how-many-people-died-and-were-injured-in-the-911-attacks-n/
2.
Exercises: On September 11, 2001, the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) was involved in an ongoing operation which involved deploying fighter aircraft to northeastern North America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unite...perations_and_exercises_on_September_11,_2001
3.
Impact of war games on response: In response to Democratic Congresswoman, Cynthia McKinney's question about whether the four war games conducted on the morning of 9/11 impaired the military’s ability to respond to the 9/11 attacks, General Myers' response was, "The answer to the question is no, it did not impair our response, in fact General Eberhart who was in the command of the North American Aerospace Defense Command as he testified in front of the 9/11 Commission I believe … I believe he told them that it enhanced our ability to respond, given that NORAD didn’t have the overall responsibility for responding to the attacks that day, that was an FAA responsibility. But there were two CPXs [Command Post Exercises]; there was one Department of Justice exercise that didn’t have anything to do with the other three and there was an actual operation ongoing because there was some Russian bomber activity up near Alaska.”"
I don't know how to put a bookmark link - Starting point in video is at 6m17.
4.
Aircraft accident investigator’s evaluation: Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College said this about the four planes on 9/11(note I do not say what he claims is irrefutable just that he said it but if you wish to argue that the source of this text is not reliable I ask you to consider if there is anything in what he says that strikes you as anomalous considering the evidence):
“With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious, but small hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. Regarding the planes that allegedly flew into the WTC towers, it is only just possible that heavy aircraft were involved in each incident, but no evidence has been produced that would add credence to the government’s alleged version of what actually caused the total destruction of the WTC buildings, let alone proving the identity of the aircraft. It is time to apply the precautionary principle.”
More detail including the individual planes here:
https://www.ff911truth.org/col-george-nelson
5.
WTC buildings where deaths were reported: Names of people who died in the seven plus buildings that were completely destroyed or damaged on 9/11 were reported only for WTCs 1, 2 and 3 but no deaths of specific people were reported in buildings WTCs 4, 5, 6 and 7 or other damaged buildings while many deaths were reported in the World Trade Centre generally.
6.
Damage to WTC buildings: The damage reported with regard to WTCs 4, 5 and 6 is as follows:
WTC-4, 9 storeys - Much of the southern two-thirds of the building was destroyed, and the remaining north portion virtually destroyed, as a result of the collapse of the South Tower. The structure was subsequently razed. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4_World_Trade_Center
WTC-5, 9 storeys - It suffered severe damage and partial collapse on its upper floors as a result of the
September 11 attacks in 2001 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_World_Trade_Center
WTC-6, 8 storeys - The building's ruins were demolished to make way for reconstruction of the current World Trade Center site -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_World_Trade_Center
An aerial view of the World Trade Center collapse following the Sept. 11 terrorist attack. Surrounding buildings were heavily damaged by the debris and massive force of the falling twin towers. (Department of Defense)
https://www.atlantahistorycenter.com/app/uploads/2021/09/132105258_e9d34eb0ef_o-1440x810.jpg
7.
Company employed for cleanup: Controlled Demolition, Inc (CDI), which holds a few world records for demolition of very large buildings and a good safety record according to their website was hired to clean up the WTC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Demolition,_Inc.
8.
Lack of injured taken to trauma centre: Cynthia McFadden at Chelsea Piers in West Manhattan where a trauma centre was set up responded to ABC anchor, Peter Jennings’ question about injured being brought to the centre that in the parade of ambulances and rescue vehicles most of them were empty apart from a few rescue workers
9.
Description of injured: Chief of Surgery, NYU Downtown Hospital (140 beds as of 2004), Dr Howard Beaton said: “Some patients were very, very severely injured and three patients were actually brought in dead on arrival. … patients who had severe head injuries, … severe injuries to their chest, bleeding inside their chest, spinal cord fractures, fractures of the pelvis, bleeding internally, large soft tissue injuries with big burns, large amounts of tissue loss, muscle hanging out, limbs at all sorts of strange angles, it was really quite something to see. For someone who’s had no wartime experience, this, I suspect, is close to a battlefield as you’ll ever get. … We were then in a situation where we were told to expect a second wave … we restocked, we restaffed and then we just waited … it became Wednesday morning, we were fully staffed and then the realisation that there were no more severely ill patients coming from the disaster site …
Relevant start point is 1m33s
This link goes to google images responses to the query “9/11 injured”
shorturl.at/syEPR
10.
Miracle survivals of North Tower collapse: We are told 16 people survived the 12-second collapse of the North tower including Pasquale Buzzelli, structural engineer, as explained in this article, Miracle Survivors.
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11/2003/n_9189/
“I felt the walls next to me crack and buckle on top of me,” he says. Suddenly, he seemed to be in free fall, and the walls seemed to separate and move away from him.
Maybe two hours later, he regained consciousness on a slab of concrete 180 feet below the 22nd floor. (He may be the source of the rumor that someone surfed the collapse and lived.)”
Collapse of the North tower
