I'm glad we have this thread, because the thread regarding the physics of the fall was absolutely ridiculous. Nothing but junk science done by people with no experience in the field, that only worked when you dismissed every bit of actual evidence and replaced it with circumstantial or outright false evidence.
Anyway...the WHY...is really, really easy.
We support Israel. No matter what side you fall on concerning that particular debate, our support of Israel means that the fringe Islamic groups hate us. Not because of our freedoms, not because we have interests in the region, but because we are the reason Israel exists.
9/11 wasn't their first shot at us. They bombed the Towers before, and they've attacked our interests in the region. There was also the USS Cole, if you recall. And it's not just us, either--it's anyone who doesn't condemn us. 9/11 wasn't a revelation, it was simply their most successful attack against us.
Now, when you start talking about the war is when I start to find real shady shit going on with our government. If people would just use their heads, they'd realize that even if we did set up 9/11, there would have been no need to stage such a spectacular false-flag attack. Flying planes into the buildings would have been sufficient. Nobody on the floors above the impact sites were getting out of that building, even if the buildings didn't fall. Hundreds of people were going to die that die no matter what, which would have been plenty of provocation for a war. Hell, I tend to believe that just the act of hijacking three of our planes would have done the trick.
Anyway, we attacked Afghanistan because the Taliban refused to hand over bin Laden without evidence. We showed this evidence to Pakistan, the UK, and to Saudi Arabia, but refused to show it to the Taliban. That was likely because the Bush administration didn't want to show that we would be willing to compromise. They wanted to show that it was either do as we say, or die.
An important thing to note, however, is that if Afghanistan had handed bin Laden over when we demanded them to, there would have been no war in Afghanistan. Granted, if Bush had shown some diplomacy, perhaps they would have cooperated. Either way, the fact that Bush didn't even try to convince them is unforgivable. Anyway, the whole justification for invading was that they had bin Laden and refused to hand him over, so they were therefore harboring him.
Did we fail to show the evidence because we didn't have it? Maybe. But I tend to think Pakistan or Saudi Arabia would have said something. Someone certainly would have said something by now, anyway. Yet, nobody has, which makes me think we must have had some evidence that Osama was connected.
We went into Iraq likely because we saw it as an opportunity to build a nation that would support us in the region. We built Israel, we started to build Afghanistan, so why not Iraq? That was likely the reasoning. We saw this as an opportunity to shape the Middle East. Or so Bush and his cronies thought. As it turns out, Iran has all the influence in Iraq that we thought building a democracy would prevent, and Afghanistan is a mess. It didn't work.
But that's why.
Anyway...the WHY...is really, really easy.
We support Israel. No matter what side you fall on concerning that particular debate, our support of Israel means that the fringe Islamic groups hate us. Not because of our freedoms, not because we have interests in the region, but because we are the reason Israel exists.
9/11 wasn't their first shot at us. They bombed the Towers before, and they've attacked our interests in the region. There was also the USS Cole, if you recall. And it's not just us, either--it's anyone who doesn't condemn us. 9/11 wasn't a revelation, it was simply their most successful attack against us.
Now, when you start talking about the war is when I start to find real shady shit going on with our government. If people would just use their heads, they'd realize that even if we did set up 9/11, there would have been no need to stage such a spectacular false-flag attack. Flying planes into the buildings would have been sufficient. Nobody on the floors above the impact sites were getting out of that building, even if the buildings didn't fall. Hundreds of people were going to die that die no matter what, which would have been plenty of provocation for a war. Hell, I tend to believe that just the act of hijacking three of our planes would have done the trick.
Anyway, we attacked Afghanistan because the Taliban refused to hand over bin Laden without evidence. We showed this evidence to Pakistan, the UK, and to Saudi Arabia, but refused to show it to the Taliban. That was likely because the Bush administration didn't want to show that we would be willing to compromise. They wanted to show that it was either do as we say, or die.
An important thing to note, however, is that if Afghanistan had handed bin Laden over when we demanded them to, there would have been no war in Afghanistan. Granted, if Bush had shown some diplomacy, perhaps they would have cooperated. Either way, the fact that Bush didn't even try to convince them is unforgivable. Anyway, the whole justification for invading was that they had bin Laden and refused to hand him over, so they were therefore harboring him.
Did we fail to show the evidence because we didn't have it? Maybe. But I tend to think Pakistan or Saudi Arabia would have said something. Someone certainly would have said something by now, anyway. Yet, nobody has, which makes me think we must have had some evidence that Osama was connected.
We went into Iraq likely because we saw it as an opportunity to build a nation that would support us in the region. We built Israel, we started to build Afghanistan, so why not Iraq? That was likely the reasoning. We saw this as an opportunity to shape the Middle East. Or so Bush and his cronies thought. As it turns out, Iran has all the influence in Iraq that we thought building a democracy would prevent, and Afghanistan is a mess. It didn't work.
But that's why.
