Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites?

Is Watson Right, Are Blacks Less Intelligent Than Whites?


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It's also not a faulty premise that intelligence exists to varying degrees and that there may be a genetic basis to intelligence. If intelligence exists, but is being measured incorrectly, how does that make the hypothesis that their is a difference in intelligence between the races false?

1. What is intelligence? (in science)

2. What is race? (in science)

3. What is the genetic basis of intelligence? (in science)

Since you believe your premise is valid, give me one evidence for each of the above that is accepted by scientists. Or go back and read spurious' post

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1590045&postcount=154
 
If you believe Watsons premise was not faulty, its clear that your knowledge of science is too poor to comprehend this discussion. Perhaps you should stick to free thoughts and cesspool or one of the other non-science forums

So me saying I am on a side of Watson, makes me somehow unintelligent? Oh draqon...you dont agree with SAM...so go play somewhere else.

O great Watson! Here is your Nobel prize you are so intelligent for discovering DNA...but o wait did you just say something about blacks being not so smart as white folks? nah...your no longer intelligent. NONSENSE. The examples of black intelligence can be seen across USA...just look at them given all chances as white folks...yet getting almost no results...drugs/jail/poor performance in school. It is not just apparent in DNA...it is apparent in our society. Blacks are indeed less intelligent that white people and DNA shows it, Watson the pioneer of DNA has found it. He is now backstabbed by his own mates because they are all afraid to reveal and fight for truth.
 
What does the discovery of DNA have to do with race, or intelligence?

He also said fat people have no ambition and Hispanic libido is due to sunshine.
 
1. Highly developed cerebral cortex
2. Mostly skin color
3. Don't know. Was hoping to find out until you butt in.
 
Winston Churchill and about 60% of Americans would be surprised.

the president...someone in politics should know something more in DNA than Watson? :p insane! And what are Americans? what education do most of them have to even say what DNA is?
 
1. Highly developed cerebral cortex
2. Mostly skin color
3. Don't know. Was hoping to find out until you butt in.

1. Autism? ADHD? Mental retardation? Schizophrenia? All have the same cerebral cortex.

2. What is the race of Eskimos?

3. See 1.
 
the president...someone in politics should know something more in DNA than Watson? :p insane! And what are Americans? what education do most of them have to even say what DNA is?

I'm talking about fat people with no ambition.
 
All I am saying is that Watson findings should lay hidden...as truth would cause disastrous for the world to handle.
 
well I agree with that as well. They got no ambitions. DNA codes everything in body...including metabolism. Less metabolism=more fat storage=depressed state=less ambitions.

So all the starving people in Africa must be highly ambitious. Couldn't get skinnier if they tried. :crazy:
 
Michael moore, or peter jackson might disagree there.

Michael moore, the guy who made a movie about Bush being evil? Yes he might have excelled in his profession...but he remains fat and thus does not have many ambitions. The fact that he is fat is already a factor that he lacks ambitions, control over state of body of self is a factor by itself.
 
So all the starving people in Africa must be highly ambitious. Couldn't get skinnier if they tried. :crazy:

if q causes p ... nothing can be said about lack of p not causing q. Illogical statement on your part

If people who are fat have less ambitions

than people who are not fat...nothing can be said about their ambitions.
 
Michael moore, the guy who made a movie about Bush being evil? Yes he might have excelled in his profession...but he remains fat and thus does not have many ambitions. The fact that he is fat is already a factor that he lacks ambitions, control over state of body of self is a factor by itself.

Maybe he lacks the amibtion to not be fat, but his ambition in a career and societal sense far surpasses most of us.
 
Maybe he lacks the amibtion to not be fat, but his ambition in a career and societal sense far surpasses most of us.

societal sense?

I for one thing see his works as a disgrace...and same thing goes with Spielberg...this world is to be made a happier place not some evil cinema show.
 
societal sense?

I for one thing see his works as a disgrace...and same thing goes with Spielberg...this world is to be made a happier place not some evil cinema show.

Well then isn't ambtion a matter of personal perspective? If your ambition is to eat pizza and chips all day then couldnt a fat person just be extremely ambitious? Just because you see somones life ambition as evil doesnt mean it is, and generally speaking too much ambition in a certain area can be a bad thing, Hitler was very very amibitious.
 
1. What is intelligence? (in science)
Intelligence is the usage of imagination to project the known into the unknown, as a method of predicting and preparing for circumstances and so to more efficiently deal with them.

As such intelligence collects sensual data and constructs abstractions, or mental models, which it can then use to analyze and to find patterns of predictable behavior.

Because these abstractions cannot be measured or observed, intelligence is measured by the outcome or by the organism's ability to adapt and to predict.

2. What is race? (in science)
Race is a human distinction, based on physical markers, meant to distinguish between group that share a common heritage.
A common heritage which resulted in the very markers used to differentiate them.
Color, shape, sound and all the human senses are employed to distinguish categories and so, even here, they are used no less.

3. What is the genetic basis of intelligence? (in science)
Intelligence is an evolutionary mutation which offers an advantage to the organism possessing it. This advantage is established and then passed on in the same way all traits are.
Intelligence is a reaction to environmental conditions.
Species that do not need to evolve, because their environments and their viability within them, remain relatively stable, change very little.
Species that are challenged by their environment to adapt or perish reproduce the traits that facilitate this survival and pass them on to future generations.
Thusly a challenging environment will cause a growth in intellect or in some other mutation that overcomes it.

In the case of human beings it is evident that their intellect resulted in a population explosion which forced interspecies pressures.
As a result certain groups dominated and pushed others into less hospitable environments.

The victors remained in their original environments and so had very little reason to evolve further. The vanquished were forced into areas alien and inhospitable to them, forcing an adaptation.
Geography, at that time, was crucual. This geograpgy isolated these groups and prevented interbreeding. This resulted in a long period of genetic isolation.

The challenging environment of the vanquished had a profound effect on their genetic makeup. Their physical adaptation and alterations mirrored a general alteration, since the mind and body dichotomy is a human myth.

Mind/Body are the same phenomena evaluated within a different context.
Thee is no separation or difference. Each is a manifestation of the flux, temporality, and so appearance exposes essence as mind is body and body is mind.

Eventually this divergence, coupled with what Gold describes as ideal conditions, resulted in these vanquished groups to return to their primordial grounds as conquerors.

It would be like a son leaving his father's home, while his brother remains there under the sheltering walls of his homestead.
The prodigal son eventually returns, changed by his experiences away from his father's home to find his brother relatively unchanged.
Since you believe your premise is valid, give me one evidence for each of the above that is accepted by scientists. Or go back and read spurious' post

http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=1590045&postcount=154
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Since when has the monkey-man become the final judgment on reality?
 
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