I hadn't anticipated this CRT panic specifically, but I did wonder several years back, when a number of these sorts were going on about "cultural Marxism", where they were headed with this.
I think back, over a decade, to when one of our neighbors, here, did the bit about the Mexican invading army. It was offensive, grotesque, and all that, but had I said, in 2010, or whenever, what it would come to when his fellow conservatives finally took that idea to the White House, that someone would say the same thing to justify murdering twenty-three people, how do we think that would have gone over? And in the context that such dangerous stupidity just didn't stand out that way, were administrators
trying to stir up a massacre; no, that would be a circumstantially absurd suggestion.
"Cultural marxism" has been a rightist trope seeking to tie liberal societal enlightenment to Jews; it's an anti-semitic trope popular among American conservatives. At what point were we, as a society, supposed to accept the rhetoric really was a political principle that Jews should be thankful for the Holocaust?
There is a lot about how awful American conservatives are that, frankly,
nobody anticipated, and
in large part because we weren't supposed to. So much of our society has depended on certain people not going there, as such, and we would appear to have exceeded that boundary. And nothing about that transgression looks, at this point, like an accident. How long they've actually been at this is a question for historians to figure, but think back, what you've seen and heard, and the people you've known and encountered over the period. Think of the people you've seen and known, here. And not just the ones who were so blatant, but also those who wanted to be seen as something else while doing their part. And the answer to the notas is, yes, this is what conservatives are and were doing the whole time, and why nota disclaimers are so hard to believe.
I'm fairly confident that any person who is conscious would take those words for the veiled threat which they are.
That's the thing, isn't it: We're supposed to think so. At the same time, well, once upon a time in a dispute, I had to ask what the other side thought was going on, and when told, I found myself reminding that nobody on the one side had said that, and they were actually responding to their own straw man. As a practical consideration, it's an important episode for me to remember: I actually had to explain to them that the person they were mad at never said that, nor the person defending him, and that the only people who said that were the ones complaining about it. It's, like, two years later, and they still haven't figured it out.
The lesson for our moment is that you might be overstating your confidence in other people; as you are aware, it's all in the politics of the beholder.
And in the moment, part of the challenge is to take these thousand points of darkness and show there is a shadow over our society, especially when so much of the counterargument relies on pretenses of righteous ignorance.
It's why I
wonder↑ if anyone is ashamed, and perhaps you can appreciate the irony of the question so offending someone that they triple down.
Because it's also hard to extrapolate, for instance, from an idea on record in this thread, a notion of interpersonal dispute,
i.e., being
"at war"↑ with someone else as the signpost where someone followed a rightist fork in the road. And even in our rarefied context at Sciforums, it's hard to know quite what to do with such examples, but if all the "not a racist" and "not a supremacist" voices in the discourse really aren't, then how did it all get to this point? Not everyone fell down a rabbit hole arguing with their neighbor.
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Still, here's one, and we only need to reach back two years. Okay, almost two and a half. To start. But, still. The story so far is that over a dozen House Republicans filed false statements with the clerk
in order to attend CPAC↗. And then it emerged that Rep. Paul Gosar (R-AZ04) spoke at a white supremacist rally coinciding with all that. Along the way, we're also going to
have a moment↗ with the idea that actually
seeing the CPAC stage is its own moment in wondering what the hell is wrong with American conservatives, and remember, we're supposed to believe it was a complete accident that no veteran conservative hand could recognize and forestall. The white supremacist organizer celebrated Rep. Gosar's participation by
announcing↗, "America is truly uncancelled."
And if someone else chose to defend Gosar, that defense
is whatever it is↗, but it also becomes relevant, as such, to consider the function, politics, and the low conservative ethic that would justify such behavior.
Anyway, that was a couple years ago. More recently, it's been about two weeks since Fuentes called for the destruction of the Jews,
declaring↱, "We’re in a holy war … we will make them die in the holy war." And it's been a little over a week since Rep. Gosar
pitched Holocaust denial↱ in a House newsletter, skipping an article's conservative source in order to link readers to a repost at a "Tea Party" website that believes the revolt against the government is afoot, promotes Holocaust denial and Great Replacement, and adores Adolf Hitler.
If I'm not surprised that it was Vociferous, back then, defending Gosar, sure, there can still remain a question of what he thought he was doing. Did he fall down a hole trying to stay competitive within his own political framework? For instance, if he has other intersections with supremacism, is it about liberal and conservative, for instance, or legitimizing American Nazis? In order to ward off the prospect of his intention to legitimize American Nazis, we must accept that he was willing to take it that far in order to stick it to Democrats.
Or our neighbor, over a decade ago. I've never questioned that he was who he said he was, an Hispanic conservative from the midwest, in part because his pitch is not uncommon. Even Trump had Hispanic supporters who thought he was the best thing ever for Hispanics. And if our neighbor fulfills the role of the Hispanic conservative who will tell you the problem with bigotry against Hispanics is Hispanics, kind of like a Cosby pull-up-your-pants speech, it's not unbelievable. Did he just fall down a hole, trying to stick it to Democrats? What the hell happened?
And that's the thing, Casarez was outed as a Nazi; Fuentes is a Nazi revivalist. It happens. It's not impossible; Hispanics and white supremacism are not absolutely incompatible.
Was our neighbor trying to foment a mass shooting? I sincerely doubt it. Did Vociferous throw down so hard for American Nazis and white supremacism? Well, I would like to hope not.
Did someone in this thread just take it how far in order to stick it to someone else in this thread? Even if it's just that kind of gaffe, well, sure, I suppose there is some deeper question about why people dig, fall down, or leap into this or that particular hole; however, as an affecting societal phenomenon, no, not everyone fell down a rabbit hole arguing with their neighbor.
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Here's a short form:
So, there was this thing, and then, like, there wasn't, and then it came back again.
I've been thinking about a particular story from history; it runs back to 1994, but we have a 2007 waypoint, here, and the whole thing is shot through with irony. For instance, imagine that you're someone else, who wrote a particular book. And when it comes time for the next printing of the bestseller, the first line of the new epilogue reflects that it all fell apart so fast.
What does that mean? Well, there was this thing, and, y'know, then there wasn't. An affecting phenomenon seemed to collapse into remission; it all fell apart so fast. But now it's back, with Congressional Republicans openly advocating Christian nationalism.
The thing is, it never really went away. It survived because enough people were okay with it. That is, they're not a supremacist, and they don't support that stuff,
but ... and the catch is, recursively, the catch. Let's see, here, they're not that and don't support it, but you're going too fast, or being too aggressive, and the bottom line is that inequality must remain in effect or else you're not being fair.
Remember, they're "not a" something, but it's not always an accident. Where were they headed? Did they even know? And what would it mean if they didn't? The inbetweeners who would pretend to be wise, the notas who would pretend to be righteous; this dangerous mess doesn't happen without them.
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Notes:
Hananoki, Eric. "Rep. Paul Gosar promotes another antisemitic site that praises Hitler and denies the Holocaust". Media Matters for America. 24 July 2023. MediaMatters.org. 31 July 2023. https://bit.ly/3OCm2bE
Thakker, Prem. "White Supremacist Nick Fuentes Calls for “Holy War” Against Jews". The New Republic. 17 July 2023. NewRepublic.com. 31 July 2023. https://bit.ly/3rTvjmU
See Also:
Walker, Hunter. "EXCLUSIVE: Capitol Hill Staffer Is A Prominent Follower Of Neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes". Talking Poinst Memo. 14 May 2023. TalkingPointsMemo.com. 31 July 2023. https://bit.ly/44O4dvY