derecho

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derecho (there's a word I didn't mind not knowing)
ok
Damned exciting
140 mph winds
Uprooted or decapitated over 40 of my trees
No power for 2 days(used up all my candles)---no power to the pumps = no gasoline
No phone for a day, no internet for 13 days
Is this the new norm?
Shed roof destroyed, shingles blown off the house, tree leaning on the studio roof, sailboat mast broken....
3 days into the cleanup, my back began to ache
started with 3 working chainsaws----2 down for repairs(one fixed and back)---chains dull----good saws, but we pushed 'em hard and ran 'em hot.
A lot of cleanup left to do.

and
many folks got it worse
many living in tents on their lawns
many still without power, phones, tv, and/or internet

darned interesting------------what we take for granted
...........................
so
anything new in your life?
 
sculptor said:
derecho (there's a word I didn't mind not knowing)
ok
Damned exciting
140 mph winds
Uprooted or decapitated over 40 of my trees
No power for 2 days(used up all my candles)---no power to the pumps = no gasoline
No phone for a day, no internet for 13 days
Is this the new norm?
Shed roof destroyed, shingles blown off the house, tree leaning on the studio roof, sailboat mast broken....
3 days into the cleanup, my back began to ache
started with 3 working chainsaws----2 down for repairs(one fixed and back)---chains dull----good saws, but we pushed 'em hard and ran 'em hot.
A lot of cleanup left to do.

and
many folks got it worse
many living in tents on their lawns
many still without power, phones, tv, and/or internet

darned interesting------------what we take for granted
...........................
so
anything new in your life?
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No such thing as climate change, though, is there? :D
 
Luckily derecho is a rare event.
Since you were out of touch you do not know that the networks mostly ignored that it happened but POTUS did declare a disaster.
 
sculptor said:
derecho (there's a word I didn't mind not knowing)
ok
Damned exciting
140 mph winds
Uprooted or decapitated over 40 of my trees
No power for 2 days(used up all my candles)---no power to the pumps = no gasoline
No phone for a day, no internet for 13 days
Is this the new norm?
Shed roof destroyed, shingles blown off the house, tree leaning on the studio roof, sailboat mast broken....
3 days into the cleanup, my back began to ache
started with 3 working chainsaws----2 down for repairs(one fixed and back)---chains dull----good saws, but we pushed 'em hard and ran 'em hot.
A lot of cleanup left to do.

and
many folks got it worse
many living in tents on their lawns
many still without power, phones, tv, and/or internet

darned interesting------------what we take for granted
...........................
so
anything new in your life?
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Sorry to hear about all that damage. At least it sounds like no one was hurt.
 
candy said:
Luckily derecho is a rare event.
Since you were out of touch you do not know that the networks mostly ignored that it happened but POTUS did declare a disaster.
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It sure is strange then that I can find all kinds of media coverage on the disaster. Have you been hiding in a cave?
 
sculptor said:
derecho (there's a word I didn't mind not knowing)
ok
Damned exciting
140 mph winds
Uprooted or decapitated over 40 of my trees
No power for 2 days(used up all my candles)---no power to the pumps = no gasoline
No phone for a day, no internet for 13 days
Is this the new norm?
Shed roof destroyed, shingles blown off the house, tree leaning on the studio roof, sailboat mast broken....
3 days into the cleanup, my back began to ache
started with 3 working chainsaws----2 down for repairs(one fixed and back)---chains dull----good saws, but we pushed 'em hard and ran 'em hot.
A lot of cleanup left to do.

and
many folks got it worse
many living in tents on their lawns
many still without power, phones, tv, and/or internet

darned interesting------------what we take for granted
...........................
so
anything new in your life?
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Holy doodle!! Sorry to hear about that dude.
 
sculptor said:
Is this the new norm?
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Yep.

With the caveat that one of its features is the absence of a reliable "norm", for a while. It's a metanorm, in a sense.

Not the event, in other words - the range of possibility that includes the event. We've crossed one of the tipping points we were warned about a while back, and will be shifting toward the eventual new equilibrium over the next few hundred years - the old equilibrium being no longer available.

But as several posters here have insisted is the important matter, the world was a nicer place for people to live when it was warmer - so no worries, as we look forward to a reforested Antarctica. Right?
 
sculptor said:
Is this the new norm?
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No... to quote an old popular lyric.... "BBBbaby you ain't seen nothing yet..."
The amount of water evaporating is increasing all the time.
The amount of mass circulating the planet in the form of water vapor is increasing all the time.
The dynamic range of weather events is increasing all the time...

The new norm is actually the constant deterioration of global weather stability and a constant increase in dynamics. That's the new norm.
 
<--- filing down the rakers(depth gauges) on the chainsaw chains.
25 is stamped on the rakers(meaning 25 thousands of an inch). I'm taking them down to 30

still cleaning up damaged and downed trees
The scary ones broke up high, but the tops didn't fall---still held up by a little sapwood and bark 20 feet off the ground angling down at 45 degrees-----eeek oh no

Maybe
I should just ignore them and lat 'em fall on their own?
 
sculptor said:
I should just ignore them and lat 'em fall on their own?
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The forestry guys I worked with called them (along with other hanging snags) "widowmakers" , and did not screw around with them unless forced by circumstance (hanging over a tourist hiking trail in a park, say). When forced, they took the whole tree down (and sometimes neighboring trees) under the direction of the most experienced guy available.

Those things can rip bark when they do fall, which in turn can kill the tree (girdling, fungus entry, etc). So if there's a safe way to take them down under control, and you want to save the tree, it's not a bad idea. Usually, there isn't - at least, not without high end machinery.

Alternatively, laissez faire management will create some prime woodpecker habitat, with owls and flying squirrels not far behind.

Trump's disaster declaration provided no money or other aid for individuals, and at first nothing for the Tribes and some of the badly hit counties - it was recently expanded: https://www.kcci.com/article/trump-...tribe-of-mississippi-in-iowa-derecho/33987893. Also, the actual provision of money has been slow and sporadic. The actor Aston Kutcher has apparently been somewhat more efficient and focused and capable, as has the Democrat who represents the "hardest hit region" in Congress. https://www.desmoinesregister.com/s...iowa-tuesday-derecho-cedar-rapids/3385668001/
 
sculptor said:
<--- filing down the rakers(depth gauges) on the chainsaw chains.
25 is stamped on the rakers(meaning 25 thousands of an inch). I'm taking them down to 30

still cleaning up damaged and downed trees
The scary ones broke up high, but the tops didn't fall---still held up by a little sapwood and bark 20 feet off the ground angling down at 45 degrees-----eeek oh no

Maybe
I should just ignore them and lat 'em fall on their own?
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A couple of years ago we had a very wet snow storm that partially broke off the top of a tree. The branches were too thin and too close together for me to climb (evergreen tree) and the hanging top was too high for me to reach in any way so that spring I cut the tree down.

It no longer looked good, it was close to the garage and was redundant, the top wasn't heavy enough to be a real danger if it fell but there was no good reason to keep it around.

If yours would be dangerous if the top let go, I'd cut it down.
 
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