John J. Bannan
Registered Senior Member
Yes? Think about it...
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Yes? Think about it...
The answer to your question is not known: it's an open problem. I can't tell you anymore, for fear of endangering my family.
But clarification is a point. You clarify to understand something new. Do you think zero has any size whatsover?
But clarification is a point. You clarify to understand something new. Do you think zero has any size whatsover?
What you mean the character, or what it represents ?
Zero has NO size and NO value, It's simply a convenient construct, a concept, not something that has physical nor mathematical attributes.
Zero has NO size and NO value, It's simply a convenient construct, a concept, not something that has physical nor mathematical attributes.
we are going after "nothing", we are not going for anything, we are not going at all, and since we are not going and there is nothing to go after...we might as well not exist.
Well, BenTheMan closed my thread asking the question whether an infinitely small number is equal to zero - to which he answered yes. Accordingly, there seems to be agreement that zero has size. This means nothingness, as analogized to zero, has size. And if nothingness has size, then there can be multiple nothingnesses, as size implies others can share that size.
Does zero exist in math? If it doesn't exist, then how come you can add two zeros together? And if you can add two zeros together, then how can those two zeros equal only one zero? Doesn't the equation 0+0=0 contain an inconsistency? Isn't math implying that zero exists, but has no size? That is why you can add two zeros together and get a result of one zero. You can't do that with any other number, e.g. 1+1=2 not 1. How can zero exist and yet not have any size? Does zero really have a size, but it is so small that it nearly approached a perfect zero, and that therefore its miniscule size is irrelevant to mathematical equations?
Does zero exist in math?
Doesn't the equation 0+0=0 contain an inconsistency?
Isn't math implying that zero exists, but has no size?
If you take an infinitely small number, as close to zero as possible, the infinitely small number still has size.
If you equate zero with an infinitely small number, than zero has size.
Interestingly, this means that absolute zero cannot exist, because you can always find a smaller number that comes closer and closer to absolute zero, but infinitity prevents you from ever reaching absolute zero. In other words, zero is the end of the line for infinitly smaller numbers. Since infinity does not permit the end of the line, absolute zero cannot exist. Therefore, the "0" of mathematics is really just an infinitely small number - which must have size. Either that, or infinity can't exist - which seems doubtful in light of the fact that I can always add more zeros to .000000000000 et cetera
What's the matter, didn't you understand the mathematical definition of zero I gave in your other thread?Does zero exist in math?
Doesn't the equation 0+0=0 contain an inconsistency? Isn't math implying that zero exists, but has no size? That is why you can add two zeros together and get a result of one zero. You can't do that with any other number, e.g. 1+1=2 not 1.
In that case no. What size does something with zero volume have ?What it represents.
You don't. That's the whole point. 0+x means "add nothing to x"..If zero has no size, then how can you add two of them together?
Is an infinitely small number equal to zero? If an infinitely small number has size and is also equal to zero, wouldn't that mean zero has size?