Lemming3k said:
Thankyou for the reply adstar.
Perhaps i phrased my question badly, people who turn to the book for guidance aren’t getting it as it could be given, if guidance deliberately allows misinterpretation then it is rather poor guidence, i think you are trying to get at only those with love in their hearts choose the correct path after seeking guidence, i feel some people dont know any better than to do what their interpretation dictates and feel it is correct regardless of anything else.
Lemming3k i am struggling to find another way to explain the thoughts that i have but i will give it an other shot. I will use an analogy but i feel that no analogy can perfectly describe it.
Think of a good water filter. Firstly in this filter there is a course grating designed to get all the bigger stones. Next comes a fine grating designed to get al the little pebbles that pass through the course grating after this there is a fine paper cartridge to take out all the little specs of dirt and then finally a special membrane designed to remove all chemical contaminants from the water.
Now the designer of the filter made it with the goal of getting water and water only. Now the bigger stones think they have made it when they reach the course grating. The pebbles think they have made it when they reach the fine grating they look back at the bigger stones and shake their heads saying you have not got through the filter and so on down throughout the different sections of the filter those who reach the next stage look back at those stopped before them shaking their heads. They all think that in the end the designer will open up the filter and pull out the grating or cartridge or membrane that they have reached but the designer wants the water and the water does not know it has arrived until they get out of the other side of the filter.
Many People decide to go out and find God. But the truth is God cannot be found. The truth is, God reveals Himself to those He wills to reveal Himself too. Some people go to the bible and read it saying in their hearts
I will discover God.
I will define God and but Him into the box of
My making. Along the way they inevitably find a teaching of God that goes against their concept of what God should teach it is then that they seek a theological interpretation of what they have read to conform it to
their own thinking of what is right. They then have found their place in the filter they do not have the meekness to accept Gods will on faith, to carry on to the next level. So in the end they really where not seeking God with the right spirit they where looking for
”their God”, their concept of God, what God should be to them. Reading the bible for them is a waste of time because they only hear what they want to hear and disregard the rest. They in their own pride, their own thinking, know even before they start to look what God should be and they go out to find
”their God”.
Other people of course know they are limited human beings. They know they can never figure God out. Before they read the Bible they call out to God with a genuine heart asking Him to lead them to understanding. Asking Him to give them all the understanding they need, to be with Him. They have the right spirit and are guided by the Holy Spirit not to understand all things, but to understand what they need to understand. When they receive the knowledge they are meek enough to humbly accept it with joy.
In the end what does God really want?
This is what im curious about, but i guess if the message is real i shall find out one day what its correct interpretation is.
I believe that everyone will know the truth. But the question is will they know it before their earthy lives end or after it ends?
Despite being atheist i can in a way agree with and understand what you say, warfare doesnt benefit anyone and christians main belief is to be peaceful and loving so taking part in warfare is very much against what they should be doing, though of course we may find out one day that god finds it acceptable in certain circumstances. Someday we may see.
God has used war and i believe He continues to use war as an implement of His wrath. But He does not choose to Use Christians as and implement of His wrath upon the world. He uses us as His ambassadors to give the message of forgiveness to those who will hear it. For a Christian to die is nothing important, for we have eternity with God. But the death of a non-believer is indeed a terrible tragedy. It is far better to be killed then to be a killer.
"i embrace the Love of the Truth that is in Jesus my Messiah"
I just wanted to pick up on this and get a complete definition to make sure im understanding it correctly.
I'm not sure what you want here Lemming3k? When i say that i embrace the Love of the Truth i am embracing Gods Love that has been revealed through the Word of God, Jesus. His revelation is so wonderful it brings a tear to my eye.
All praise The Ancient Of Days
