Gun control - US vs. rest of the world

See first post for gun control measures. Are you for or against them?


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I told you before .......there is no discussion ....I ain't givin' up my guns to some government officials who deem that I have not passed some government criteria.

And you shouldn't. But you should give up your guns to a government official if your guns would be unconstitutional. Otherwise you would be nothing more than a terrorist. An enemy of freedom and democratic values.
 
I don't want to talk about this topic anymore ....and I ain't giving up my guns. I've had my say, the "diplomacy" is over, you can go back to your desk and write up the report now.

Baron Max
 
I don't want to talk about this topic anymore ....and I ain't giving up my guns. I've had my say, the "diplomacy" is over, you can go back to your desk and write up the report now.

Baron Max

I'm sure you personally do not have to give up your gun.

The local militia asked me to pass on a message to you. They are going to overthrow the government on wednesday afternoon and they require you to be there. Bring your guns and wear the appropriate uniform and stipulated in the charter 23b of your local militia regulations.

And don't wear your sneakers like you did last time. BOOTS!
 
Exactly Baron. Let them piss and moan about guns. All new guns laws do is make criminals out of ordinary people.

Canada has a problem enforceing and punishing CURRENT gun laws. Using a gun in a crime is a felony...BFD - a felony that may not even yield ANY jail time in Canada. Yet people are clammering for more gun laws. My thinking is, oh well tighten the gun laws make me a criminal and who gives a fuck even if I get caught....slap on the wrist, a fine at best. Probably cheaper than registering and paying for every long arm every year.

So basically what I'm sayin' is fill yer fuckin boots people, whatever makes you FEEL safe.
 
Exactly Baron. Let them piss and moan about guns. All new guns laws do is make criminals out of ordinary people.

Canada has a problem enforceing and punishing CURRENT gun laws. Using a gun in a crime is a felony...BFD - a felony that may not even yield ANY jail time in Canada. Yet people are clammering for more gun laws. My thinking is, oh well tighten the gun laws make me a criminal and who gives a fuck even if I get caught....slap on the wrist, a fine at best. Probably cheaper than registering every long arm every year.

So basically what I'm sayin' is fill yer fuckin boots people, whatever makes you FEEL safe.

wow.... a knee jerk.

So you don't want gun control because you like the way your life is now. hardly a proper argument that supports the constitution, be it American or Canadian.

How come everybody is so unwilling to discuss gun control here? gun control doesn't mean less guns. It might even mean you will get a spanking new fully automatic gun and a bazooka instead of the pathetic puny stuff you have now.

Honestly, these kind of posts sincerely suggest that some kind of tight gun control is needed cause clearly the people who own guns seem to be very unstable.
 
wow.... a knee jerk.

So you don't want gun control because you like the way your life is now.

Huh? How in hell did you get that from what he posted?????

What the hell are you drinking or smoking this morning? Read his post again, Spurious, perhaps, just maybe, you'll understand.

Baron Max
 
Honestly, these kind of posts sincerely suggest that some kind of tight gun control is needed cause clearly the people who own guns seem to be very unstable.

So if someone "seems" unstable to you, then you're permitted to force them to do whatever you say?

Interesting viewpoint.

Baron Max
 
wow.... a knee jerk.

So you don't want gun control because you like the way your life is now. hardly a proper argument that supports the constitution, be it American or Canadian.

How come everybody is so unwilling to discuss gun control here? gun control doesn't mean less guns. It might even mean you will get a spanking new fully automatic gun and a bazooka instead of the pathetic puny stuff you have now.

Honestly, these kind of posts sincerely suggest that some kind of tight gun control is needed cause clearly the people who own guns seem to be very unstable.

Never been a fan of full auto, it's very inaccurate. And already restricted to grandfather clauses in Canada since 69'(Though I do know a certain "grandfather" whom legally owns an FN-FAL, I need to nudge myself in his unofficial will - I will make a special exception for an FN-FAL). Bazooka? Even if by strange occurance of fate I find myself upagainst government tanks, I would be using the trusty 30-06 to kill bambi's mother in the Rockies so I don't risk getting ID'd in the supermarket.

There is an unstable post...mmmkay?
 
im against banning automatic weapons.
personal gun freedom is the second line of defense against a government gone wrong.
(the first, by the way, is a free and unbiased press)
 
What, ....they can throw books at them?

I'd ask you to think about the situation in Burma right now to see how well "peaceful" methods work against an armed government. Perhaps, just perhaps, you'll see that idealism fails miserably in the face of harsh reality.

Baron Max

no because an educated population will not allow its government to become tyranical.
 
im against banning automatic weapons.
personal gun freedom is the second line of defense against a government gone wrong.
(the first, by the way, is a free and unbiased press)

Not really, e.g. LTTE, Jharkhand Mukti Morcha, Kashmir, Hamas (vs Israel).

Guns are pretty useless against the government.
 
The Revolutionary War, guns were very effective against a Tyrannical Government.

WWII, fire arms were very effective against tyrannical governments. The lack of firearms and knowledge left the populace of Europe vulnerable to tyrannical governments, the one country that wasn't gobbled up by the Nazi War machine was Switzerland, the land of the Gun, every swinging Richard has one, and knows how to use it, don't you think that that information played a large part in the decision of the German Government, not to try and take Switzerland, they took every other country in Europe, Hitler, didn't they even try to take Switzerland?
 
How many tanks do you think you can take out by yourself?

zero. Did you read my post? I'd hide out and hunt with my rifles.

However, if i'm important enough to send a tank after, I have some friends. I might be able to convince some of my fellow revolutionaries to become Molotov trained.

Finns beat the shit out of Russian tanks in the 39' winter war, using this tactic, I would think you knew that.
 
Guns are pretty useless against the government.

True, so the Muslims of the world turn those guns and weapons on the innocent civilians of their own nation, right? If Muslims kill enough innocent Muslims, then the governments will bow to their demands? Great tactic, huh, Sam?

Baron Max
 
Well they put the infantry in tanks too nowadays Baron. They are real chicken shit about this stuff, it costs a lot of money to pay a wounded vet.
 
Guns are pretty useless against the government.

I don't see how you can say that, Sam. Guns in the hands of people have pretty much been the reason for most governments of the world to take the power that they now enjoy.

Baron Max
 
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