Heterosexuality is unnatural

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Important message for straight men

There are so many examples from my contemporary society that I can use. But they are like men's deepest secrets. Men have somehow learned to find limited breathing spaces for themselves behind the scenes. And perhaps it will not be a good idea to reveal everything!

Straight men in the west have also developed their own similar breathing spaces. And they are much fewer and rarer than that in our society. And even though I know straight men are ging to hate me for revealing these things --- which there is a silent understanding amongst men to uphold their secrecy and sanctity --- but guys, I think its now time to come out and face things boldly. Heterosexuality has driven you to a wall. There are just no more escape routes. Straight men are already dwon the pits in th west --- and their are becoming second class citizens day by day. If you don't act now --- you'll end up like the bonobos , and perhaps then it will be too late to do anything! (I hope its not already too late now --- at least there is hope for my society!).
 
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Buddha1 said:
Sometimes I wonder if men and women really suit each other. Perhaps they should live next door and just visit now and then. ~Katharine Hepburn
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Too bad for women, though, they seem to have a tougher time being lesbians! I've known several young women who have dabbled unsuccessfully, and one who flat out told me she was a lesbian, and then promptly dated two guys. I guess it was just an experiment on her part, but seems to me women aren't nearly as good at being constant.
 
I've always said this very same thing in protest: the sexes should just stop mingling and stick with each other!

Although, we know women are the weaker ones, because they can't seem to find their own as attractive!
 
Giambattista said:
You've finally scared ALL of us off!

Okay not me. I'm still here. I've just been quiet for a day.
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Since you broached the topic......

This is the last weapon that those who have a vested interest in 'heterosexuality' have. They will destroy evidence, manipulate it, hide it and when you try to expose the truth they will browbeat you, try to bully you --- throw their 'easy' social power at you --- and when nothing else works they will just ignore you --- like you don't exist. If they do that, they don't have to face the truth. It is as simple as that!

I have witnessed that on other boards, and I think this is a common pattern. The worst part is that they coolly go about with their earlier business of "heterosexuality" and "homosexuality" and everyting else (including that heterosexual is straight/ masculine and masculine men who like men are homosexuals/ queers too, and that heterosexuality is natural and biological, and that homosexuality has no purpose......and so on!) just like before, as if nothing has changed --- as if they don't have a conscience at all. The vested interests can easily afford to do that since after all they are in power. No amount of truth can hurt them as long as the real straight men are disempowered and cannot come forward to speak --- eventhough they are the vaaaaaast majority.

It's frustrating when that happens --- but that also brings hope that true straight men will read this too and it may force them to think, though maybe the vested interests have not yet come to that stage here!

But it exposes them well as bigots, their power as artificial, their masculinity as fake --- Heterosexuality is an ideology like other human ideologies, and as such it is only interested in surviving whether by hook or crook, it is not interested in the truth --- because truth will totally throw it out of existence.
 
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Giambattista said:
Too bad for women, though, they seem to have a tougher time being lesbians! I've known several young women who have dabbled unsuccessfully, and one who flat out told me she was a lesbian, and then promptly dated two guys. I guess it was just an experiment on her part, but seems to me women aren't nearly as good at being constant.
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"Lesbian", my dear friend is another term meant to psychologically marginalise same-sex behaviour and you should know better not to use it!

How we label things affects our perception.
 
Giambattista said:
I've always said this very same thing in protest: the sexes should just stop mingling and stick with each other!

Although, we know women are the weaker ones, because they can't seem to find their own as attractive!
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I know I have said this on some thread recently, but I'll say this again:

It's a well known fact that males of a species are almost always better looking/ more attractive than the females of the species. (Why do you think women have to put up all that make-up to look good!).

But while the primary drive of men is to bond with other men, that of women is to procreate and raise her children. She really does not care so much (as far as nature is concerned --- artificial societies tend to create artificial individual needs) for romantic bonds either with same-sex or opposite sex. The bond that gives her the most fulfillment and makes her life worthwhile is the one with her child.

But it is also a fact that women do tend to bond better with their own kind. Whom your society refers to as "Lesbians" usually have intensely emotional bonds --- those that men have been made unable to form with other men and can't form with women.
 
Buddha1 said:
Since you broached the topic......

This is the last weapon that those who have a vested interest in 'heterosexuality' have. They will destroy evidence, manipulate it, hide it and when you try to expose the truth they will browbeat you, try to bully you --- throw their 'easy' social power at you --- and when nothing else works they will just ignore you --- like you don't exist. If they do that, they don't have to face the truth. It is as simple as that!

I have witnessed that on other boards, and I think this is a common pattern. The worst part is that they coolly go about with their earlier business of "heterosexuality" and "homosexuality" and everyting else (including that heterosexual is straight/ masculine and masculine men who like men are homosexuals/ queers too, and that heterosexuality is natural and biological, and that homosexuality has no purpose......and so on!) just like before, as if nothing has changed --- as if they don't have a conscience at all. The vested interests can easily afford to do that since after all they are in power. No amount of truth can hurt them as long as the real straight men are disempowered and cannot come forward to speak --- eventhough they are the vaaaaaast majority.

It's frustrating when that happens --- but that also brings hope that true straight men will read this too and it may force them to think, though maybe the vested interests have not yet come to that stage here!

But it exposes them well as bigots, their power as artificial, their masculinity as fake --- Heterosexuality is an ideology like other human ideologies, and as such it is only interested in surviving whether by hook or crook, it is not interested in the truth --- because truth will totally throw it out of existence.
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AMEN, I think!
 
Okay, all these labels and misconceptions aside. We both know that oft-quoted (and some may say erroneous) tally of 10% gay, but tell me, in your own informed opinion, what is the true percentage of men who prefer men over women? Physically and sexually, their attraction to men is stronger than that towards women?

I really want to know. I think you owe it to us. Rawr!!!
 
Buddha1 said:
I know I have said this on some thread recently, but I'll say this again:

It's a well known fact that males of a species are almost always better looking/ more attractive than the females of the species. (Why do you think women have to put up all that make-up to look good!).
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Amen to that, Brother! I suppose you read my little spiel about perhaps the first time I realised I liked males more than females. I mentioned the completely PLASTIC sexual imagery that's touted as a woman's superior beauty. Completely bunk. PERIOD. I'm calling them out. ALL THOSE PRETENDERS. There is NO excuse for any of that. Everywhere you look, women are asked to practically do the impossible and if you really examine that standard of beauty, it's way more than can normally and reasonably be done.
Why are men allowed to have hairy bodies and plain faces (that is, no make up) and they still can be considered good looking? Why do women have to go to such lengths to be considered attractive?

Now, to be honest, I don't think women ALWAYS have to be so fake to be attractive. I sometimes find boyish looking girls attractive. I have a penchant for liking lesbians, whether they're masculine looking or more feminine. I think maybe it's just their ideal of singularity.
 
This is a repost from another thread but I felt that I would put it here:

Okay, all these labels and misconceptions aside. We both know that oft-quoted (and some may say erroneous) tally of 10% gay, but tell me, in your own informed opinion, what is the true percentage of men who prefer men over women? Physically and sexually, their attraction to men is stronger than that towards women?

I really want to know. I think you owe it to us. Rawr!!! :m:
 
Buddha1 said:
"Lesbian", my dear friend is another term meant to psychologically marginalise same-sex behaviour and you should know better not to use it!

How we label things affects our perception.
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I know what you have said, dear friend, but I insist on using it because it is thusly that I know when someone is truly devoted to their own gender. People that put that label on themselves are brave, regardless of whether it fits or not. By calling themselves gay or lesbian, they're saying that they're not afraid to admit that they don't play the game that's called "Opposites Attract". And that game is much too stupid. Even though most of the people that call themselves gay or lesbian are probably too stupid for me to associate with!

But, like I once told you, most people aren't fit to be admitted into the sanctuary of my heart. I am the Lord, and I do not change!
 
Again, like I have stated several times thus far, the reason I use those terms is simply to guage how much a person is attracted towards their own gender. I know very well from my own experience that people won't always label themselves that, and may well be pretending to be something else, but if someone tells me that outright, I at least know where they stand. And I have respect for what they believe and feel.
 
Heterosexualising traditional societies --- intensifying the heat on men!

My country is going through intense heterosexualisation --- which involves destroying all the male-only spaces and the social sustomes that had allowed men some hidden space to give expression to their sexual need for other men, in the face of intense pressure to have sex with women. While watching an advertisement on TV which has today become the order of the day, but just five years ago would have been unthinkable --- a woman was shown aggressively caressing a male mannequins body. This is forcibly creating an environment where women can come forward and consolidate their 'invisible powers' unwittingly granted to them by the society (which although was not meant to be used in this manner) in order to put pressure on men.

Anyway, I just thought what if they started showing straight masculine men loving other men --- caressing them like that on T.V.

All hell will let loose on heterosexuality. It's fake claim to masculinity will be exposed. The extreme pressure that it had so painstakingly created on men through social masculinity --- since time immemorial will be shattered like a castle of cards.

And men will no longer be ashamed to claim their sexual need for men.
 
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Bhudda, I can speak with total authority for only one person: myself. The only intense pressure I feel under as a male to be heterosexual is the intense pleasure derived from sexual activity with a female. Based on this - and, I concede, only on this - I find your entire thesis laughable. Quite the funniest thing I have read for some time.
 
Ophiolite said:
Bhudda, I can speak with total authority for only one person: myself. The only intense pressure I feel under as a male to be heterosexual is the intense pleasure derived from sexual activity with a female. Based on this - and, I concede, only on this - I find your entire thesis laughable. Quite the funniest thing I have read for some time.
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Just laughing will not suffice, I'm afraid. What we need is evidence.

No one is denying that sex is pleasurable --- whether with male or female. And no one is denying that some males do have an exclusive sexual desire for women, which includes a desire for bonding. But that does not negate the intense pressures. If you don't feel them, inspite of their intensity, then you don't really belong in the naturally 'straight group, you're there only because you're heterosexual --- because society has cunningly included 'heterosexuality' as a 'straight' quality (See heterosexuality is queer ).

I've already mentioned that 'naturallay' heterosexual and the true 'homosexual' men --- who actually belong in the same male gender group that can be referred to as "Meterosexuals" --- do not feel these pressures. This is because they have very little stake in social masculinity as they have inadequate natural masculinity (which is more than compensated by natural femininity, if it is not crippled!). But such men are really a minority, (a fact misrepresented by the society --- otherwise why is their such strict control on what and how information about male sexuality will be transmitted, especially to the young.)
 
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Ophiolite said:
Bhudda, I can speak with total authority for only one person: myself. The only intense pressure I feel under as a male to be heterosexual is the intense pleasure derived from sexual activity with a female. Based on this - and, I concede, only on this - I find your entire thesis laughable. Quite the funniest thing I have read for some time.
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If you could just learn to see yourself as 'different' from straight men, and not extrapolate your experiences on others --- you'll know what I mean.
 
Definition of straight

The term 'straight' signifies a regular man which translates into the 'majority', 'normal' and predeominantly masculine man.

If we look from the point of view of nature, heterosexuality is none of the above. It's not regular, which means, it is not 'majority', it is not 'normal' (in the sense of not being the norm), and it is a queer quality.

The society has arbitrarily and unfairly equated 'heterosexuality' with straighthood, in order to manipulate the straight male behaviour. It's a strategy which never fails. Have you seen how advertisements that target men try to propagate their product as 'masculine'? If they succeed in creating that impression, nothing can prevent their sale amongst men. This is how smoking became so common amongst men.

Consequently, the straightness of heterosexuality is extremely fragile and depends totally on social fabrication. It only works long as you acknowledge it as masculine. The moment you question it --- heterosexuals have no way to defend their straighthood. They become panicky and resort to their fake power --- which unfortunately for them is already exposed as such.
 
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