Iraqi Shias protest against US troops

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Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Shias have gathered in the holy city of Najaf for a mass demonstration calling for US-led troops to leave Iraq.

Up to one million people were expected in Najaf after an appeal by Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr, who branded US forces "your arch enemy" in a statement.

He called Iraqis to Najaf to mark four years since US troops entered Baghdad and ended the rule of Saddam Hussein.

Baghdad has been placed under curfew for the duration of the anniversary.

A 24-hour ban on movement by all vehicles, for fear of car bomb attacks, began in the city at 0500 (0100 GMT) on Monday, where four years ago a giant statue of Saddam Hussein was torn down, symbolising the fall of his regime.

Followers of Moqtada Sadr play a key role in Iraq, with the Mehdi Army said to be heavily involved in the sectarian violence of the past year.

The BBC's Jim Muir, in Baghdad, says the Americans regard the cleric and his militia as the biggest danger to Iraq today.

However, the militia is reported to have stood down in response to a nearly eight-week-old US "surge", or security drive in Baghdad.

The cleric did not appear personally, but called for the mass protest in a statement issued on Sunday.

"In order to end the occupation, you will go out and demonstrate," he said.

He asked Iraqis not to "walk alongside the occupiers, because they are your arch enemy" and to turn all their efforts on US forces.

But he warned followers against violence, urging the Mehdi Army and Iraqi security forces "to be to be patient and to unite your efforts against the enemy and not against the sons of Iraq".

One members of Mr Sadr's organisation, Salah al-Obaydi, called the rally a "call for liberation".

"We're hoping that by next year's anniversary, we will be an independent and liberated Iraq with full sovereignty," he told the Associated Press.
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If the American people and the Iraqi people want the US out of Iraq, why are they still there?
 
Baron Max said:
A few protesters constitutes "the Iragi people"?

Baron Max
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Thats hardly the only information available:
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/home_page/250.php?nid=&id=&pnt=250&lb=hmpg1

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radicand said:
Of course, you know these kinds of facts are useless to the emotional driven. Naturally, emotionally driven is pretty much descriptive of the left.

Good links!
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The WPO is an emotionally driven poll?:rolleyes:
 
So...according to the polls, the US should withdraw from Iraq but stay in the province of Kurdistan.
 
samcdkey said:
Thats hardly the only information available:
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Polls can be made to show almost anything, Sam. I'm surprised that you don't know that ....claiming to be a scientist and all.

The same can be said of the news that we see and hear ....put on by biased reporters. Yet you believe it because you're sucked into it by your own bias.

A few protestors is news ...yet the millions who don't do anything are not news! Interesting that you pick the few to reveal your own ignorance, huh?

Baron Max
 
Baron Max said:
Polls can be made to show almost anything, Sam. I'm surprised that you don't know that ....claiming to be a scientist and all.

The same can be said of the news that we see and hear ....put on by biased reporters. Yet you believe it because you're sucked into it by your own bias.

A few protestors is news ...yet the millions who don't do anything are not news! Interesting that you pick the few to reveal your own ignorance, huh?

Baron Max
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You could look at the method and arrive at a reasonable conclusion.

In any case, I have yet to meet a nation that prefers occupation by a foreign power.
 
It's the northern area of Iraq. For starters, anyway. But maybe that would be enough. You know how Turkey is about criticism. :rolleyes:
 
samcdkey said:
In any case, I have yet to meet a nation that prefers occupation by a foreign power.
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Germany, Japan, South Korea, to name a few. And look at what those nations have done and have become. they're all strong, powerful, highly successful nations that started out after World War II with nothing but American occupation and American help.

If Iraq were to follow in those footsteps, they'd be the most envied, powerful, most successful of all in the Mid-East. And yet they fight all that wonderful chance. Sad, aint it?

Baron Max
 
Baron Max said:
Germany, Japan, South Korea, to name a few. And look at what those nations have done and have become. they're all strong, powerful, highly successful nations that started out after World War II with nothing but American occupation and American help.

If Iraq were to follow in those footsteps, they'd be the most envied, powerful, most successful of all in the Mid-East. And yet they fight all that wonderful chance. Sad, aint it?

Baron Max
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If they preferred occupation, how come they are not still occupied?

And I suggest you read history before making silly claims:

Germany:
http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/133c/133cTexts/USOccGerm+IraqHNet03v.htm

Korea:
http://www.workers.org/ww/2003/jeong0619.php

Japan:
Shikata ga nai
Even Japanese peace activists who endorse the ideals of the Nuremberg and Tokyo charters, and who have labored to document and publicize Japanese atrocities, cannot defend the American decision to exonerate the emperor of war responsibility and then, in the chill of Cold war, release and soon afterwards openly embrace accused right-wing war criminals like the later prime minister Kishi Nobusuke.
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samcdkey said:
Doesn't change the fact that it was only because of demilitarization they could not fight back.

Shikata ga nai. There was nothing they could do.
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right there in black and white and you STILL refuse to acknowledge it.

like i told someone else, it says alot about you sam.
 
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