Iraqi Shias protest against US troops

[leopold]

Like I said, the Japanese are the best source of how they feel.

then uh qoute JAPANESE sources then instead of wikipropagandapedia

 

[leopold]

another excerpt straight from the horses mouth:

In the wake of defeat

In recently defeated Japan, the most compelling issues of the day were modernization and democratization. These, in turn, were matters indivisible from the problem of how to represent the “West” and “Asia.” As one might expect, contemporary intellectuals advocated democratization and modernization modeled on “Western modernity,” and were inclined to look askance toward “backward Asia.” This inclination, however, was related in a number of ways to the historical context of the day.
http://japanfocus.org/products/details/2350

yeah buddy, it sure sounded like they hated us.

 

[leopold]

an article written by a japanese:
http://www.youthlinks.org/article.do?articleID=1101&sl=e

yepper we was hated man!

 

[leopold]

japans post war recovery has been labeled numerous times as a miracle.
imagine that sam. yes buddy the japanese hated us.

 

[S.A.M.]

yeah buddy, it sure sounded like they hated us.

I did not say they hated the US. I said they did not want to be occupied.

 

[S.A.M.]

an article written by a japanese:
http://www.youthlinks.org/article.do?articleID=1101&sl=e

yepper we was hated man!

Firstly, the Japanese had to demilitarize leaving them with no army to start another war. Politicians, soldiers, and leaders of the army or anyone who were thought to have responsibilities of the war were put on trial and some were even hanged. Also, people who had important positions or jobs in the war were forced out of their jobs. The worst came when the Japanese emperor, Emperor Hirohito, had to deny that he was a descendant of god.

Yawn.

 

[leopold]

I did not say they hated the US. I said they did not want to be occupied.

they wasn't "occupied". unlike iraq the japanese WANTED to get away from their backward world.

 

[leopold]

Yawn.

oh my god! war criminals were executed!! it's a travesty!!! the emperor had to say he really wasn't a god after all !!!! another travesty!!!!

 

[S.A.M.]

they wasn't "occupied". unlike iraq the japanese WANTED to get away from their backward world.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007-03/01/content_816384.htm

Yeah right

Declassified documents reveal that Japanese ultranationalists with ties to U.S. military intelligence plotted to overthrow the Japanese government and assassinate the prime minister in 1952.

The scheme ¡ª which was abandoned ¡ª was concocted by militarists and suspected war criminals who had worked for U.S. occupation authorities after World War II, according to CIA records reviewed by The Associated Press. The plotters wanted a right-wing government that would rearm Japan.

The CIA files, declassified in 2005 and publicized by the U.S. National Archives in January, detail a plot to oust the pro-U.S. prime minister, Shigeru Yoshida, and install a more hawkish government led by Ichiro Hatoyama.

And:

Yoshida was pushed out of office peacefully in 1954 and replaced by Hatoyama, but the ultrarightist dream of resurrecting a militarist Japan never happened. The 1947 pacifist constitution bars Japan from warfare and has never been amended.

 

[S.A.M.]

oh my god! war criminals were executed!! it's a travesty!!! the emperor had to say he really wasn't a god after all !!!! another travesty!!!!

Not war criminals, only the people with the ability to militarize the Japanese.

 

[leopold]

what kind of "ties" did they have? worked in the same building?

 

[leopold]

Not war criminals, only the people with the ability to militarize the Japanese.

liar.

Politicians, soldiers, and leaders of the army or anyone who were thought to have responsibilities of the war were put on trial and some were even hanged.

nowhere does it say "only the people with the ability militarize . . ".

stop twisting words sam.

 

[S.A.M.]

what kind of "ties" did they have? worked in the same building?

Same old same old

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=20539

Col. Masanobu Tsuji was a fanatical Japanese militarist and brutal warrior, hunted after World War II for massacres of Chinese civilians and complicity in the Bataan Death March. And then he became a U.S. spy. Newly declassified CIA records, released by the U.S. National Archives and examined by The Associated Press, document more fully than ever how Tsuji and other suspected Japanese war criminals were recruited by U.S. intelligence in the early days of the Cold War. The documents also show how ineffective the effort was, in the CIA's view.

The records, declassified in 2005 and 2006 under an act of Congress in tandem with Nazi war crime-related files, fill in many of the blanks in the previously spotty documentation of the occupation authority's intelligence arm and its involvement with Japanese ultra-nationalists and war criminals, historians say.

In addition to Tsuji, who escaped Allied prosecution and was elected to parliament in the 1950s, conspicuous figures in U.S.-funded operations included mob boss and war profiteer Yoshio Kodama, and Takushiro Hattori, former private secretary to Hideki Tojo, the wartime prime minister hanged as a war criminal in 1948.

The CIA also cast a harsh eye on its counterparts — and institutional rivals — at G-2, the occupation's intelligence arm, providing evidence for the first time that the Japanese operatives often bilked gullible American patrons, passing on useless intelligence and using their U.S. ties to boost smuggling operations and further their efforts to resurrect a militarist Japan.

 

[S.A.M.]

liar.


nowhere does it say "only the people with the ability militarize . . ".

stop twisting words sam.

Try this:

Firstly, the Japanese had to demilitarize leaving them with no army to start another war. Also, people who had important positions or jobs in the war were forced out of their jobs.

 

[leopold]

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2007-03/01/content_816384.htm

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=20539

there is no comparison between the two.
one is about the supposed overthrow of the japanese government, the other about spying on russia.

 

[leopold]

Try this:

so? and?

 

[S.A.M.]

there is no comparison between the two.
one is about the supposed overthrow of the japanese government, the other about spying on russia.

Can you read?

The records, declassified in 2005 and 2006 under an act of Congress in tandem with Nazi war crime-related files, fill in many of the blanks in the previously spotty documentation of the occupation authority's intelligence arm and its involvement with Japanese ultra-nationalists and war criminals, historians say

.

 

[spidergoat]

I think around 10,000 protestors at the command of Muqtada al-Sadr is significant. That's more people than estimations of insurgent numbers.

 

[leopold]

I think around 10,000 protestors at the command of Muqtada al-Sadr is significant. That's more people than estimations of insurgent numbers.

can't you see that me and sam are trying to stomp each other into the ground?

 

[S.A.M.]

so? and?

After the end of the war, the demilitarization of the Japanese armed forces was carried out with extreme speed. On October 16, 1945, MacArthur announced in a statement that "Today the Japanese Armed Forces throughout Japan completed their demobilization and ceased to exist as such." The dismantling of the Japanese armed forces, the fact that there no longer existed any armed forces, greatly influenced the arguments for changing the Meiji Constitution's military provisions. That is, it affected the investigations of Toshio Irie, who had started work on the constitution revision problem in secret within the Bureau of Legislation ("The Termination of the War and the Constitution"

http://www.ndl.go.jp/constitution/e/ronten/02ronten.html