Leo Volont
Registered Senior Member
Quantum Quack said:Possibly a way of looking at this issue could be to simplify it down to positive and negative forces not unlike a car battery that has 12 volts available at both poles.
Jesus went into the desert and rejected the negative pole thus the energy involved now had a positive bias. Of course the universe needed to balance this bias and so Jesus by nature of his positve force attracted in the end energies that would ineveitably neutralise his positive bias, by expunging him from an earthly existence.
If Jesus had acccepted the temptations of an Earthly existence he may have become a God in the flesh and still be here in the flesh today. But because he rejected his Earthly existence his earthly state was rejected by the very thing he rejected.
It's a bit like having a battery that has 16 volts on one pole and 8 volts on the other, the need to balance the equation became a universal necessity.
So Jesus had to be neutralised but of course his legacy lifted the bar considerable so now instead of having a 12 volt battery we have a 24 volt battery......sort of thingo....
Just thinking......feel free to pooh pooh the idea as much as you want...
Another way of applying your Model would be to say that there can be no Divine Providence without the Payment of Sacrifice and Penance. All of the Miracles and Interventions of Christ eventually had to be paid for.
Of course their have subsequently been Saints whose Intercessions have been greater than even those of Christ, but they were careful to Pay as they Went with severe penances and mortifications. Saint Vincent Ferrer, the most powerful and Godlike Saint in Human History (Jesus, almost, not excluded) went everywhere with 10,000 Flagellents who scourged themselves constantly, marching upwards to 30 miles a day while fasting. Using this 'battery' of Penance, Vincent Ferrer became the most prolific Wonder Worker of All Times. He was humble but had one boast, that despite the tortures his Flagellents inflicted upon themselves for the sake of His Mission, they all stayed in good health. Jesus and his Disciples, on the other hand, went from one Dinner Party to another. Jesus even mentioned that the Time for Penance had not yet come. But the Bill was to eventually be paid. The Paulist Mistake is to believe that Christ's Suffering was to pay for everybody and into the Future, when actually it was enough for Christ's Suffering to pay only for Past Debts.