So, you're all for letting young boys sleep with men? Are you too planning on becoming a pedophile?
Michael Jackson is Back
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So, you're all for letting young boys sleep with men? Are you too planning on becoming a pedophile?
MJ as a performer is irrelevant.
He does not come off in any interview as anything for intellects who do not pay attention to the slanted methods the media uses to depict him as a psychopath. You seeing the media slant has nothing to do with MJ as a person.
His relationships do not have upleasant vibes. His dealings with his father and the childhood abuse of all the Jackson siblings are exceptional in a good way. He is far better off emotionally as a person than many people who have not been abused as a child.
His 2 plastic surgeries are nothing compared to what most rich people do. All the crap about plastic surgury ruining his face are by idiots that do not know his age, and expect him to look like he is 19 years old. They are comparing a photo of a man in his 40s with his 19 year old photo, and say that he has had lots of plastic surgery as if it was the surgery that caused him to look older. How moronic indeed.
Your claim that he is using children as some sort of compensation for emotional problems is completely unfounded. Only an idiot would condemn a man for dealing with children the way MJ does. I can only appreciate his way with children that more emotionally disturbed people are incapable of. And even more emptionally disturbed morons consider to be emotionally disturbed.
You are a media hypnotized zombie.
He is obviously not a psychopath. I don't think anyone made the claim that he was. He's way too naive to be a psychopath. I don't think Michael Jackson even knows what a psychopath is.
Maybe you are correct, but it does not change the fact that Michael needs help. He's lost almost all his money doing stupid shit. He's going to have to sell his beatles collection, and he's had to sell his house.
You believe he's only had 2???????? Ok thats up to you, but what the hell happened to his nose?
Ok, go ahead and copy Michael Jackson, and when you get accused of rape, then you'll know why you were warned.
You are hypnotized by Michael Jackson, so I guess you are a media zombie too.
Bells
Staff member
You do not condemn paedophilia?
In fact, you appreciate his paedophilic tendencies?
Interesting.
Wrong the media zombie is you. Naive has nothing to do with anything. He was set up in a way that he should not have is right. But the fact that you have probably been set up a few times in your life in even far easier ways, you have no right to call somebody else naive. Those statements are not even your own. Are are simply regurgetating media fed crap. Because that is the #1 attitude the media was brainwashing the masses into.
THE MEDIA BRAINWASHES THE MASSES: "It is MJ's behavior that should change. Not the incompetent status quo of the masses that considers his behavior as just wrong."
No MJ should not bow down to these assholes that consider his behavior wrong. He should proudly be the best person that he can be no matter how these assholes try to bring him down. It is the behavior of the status quo masses that is destructive and foolish. Not MJ's behavior that is constructive and positive. It is not MJ that needs to change his constuctive attitude and behavior. It is the view of the illiterate idiotic masses that need to understand that what MJ is doing is far better as a human being than many of the could ever hope to be capable of becoming.
Regarding his finances is something I do not have much knowledge on. If he is going broke, it is no different from anybody else with bad spending habits. In fact the majority of the public has even worse spending habits than MJ. Just not with so much money. Yes he might need a good lesson in finance if what you say about his situation is indeed true. But I have no reason to hold a low understanding of financial management against MJ or anybody else with little financial management skills.
WTF?? Are you that illiterate that you do not know how to read?
His 2 plastic surgeries are nothing compared to what most rich people do. All the crap about plastic surgury ruining his face are by idiots that do not know his age, and expect him to look like he is 19 years old. They are comparing a photo of a man in his 40s with his 19 year old photo, and say that he has had lots of plastic surgery as if it was the surgery that caused him to look older. How moronic indeed.
You actually believe that he has had only two plastic surgeries? Who is the moron here, exactly?
MJ quite clearly is suffering from multiple psychiatric disorders.
- The numerous plastic surgeries to the point where his face is falling apart. (Nothing to do with age.)
- The cosmetic skin bleaching. (No, it’s not vitiligo as he claims. Vitiligo presents as clonal patches, not as complete skin whitening.)
- The wearing of that mask. (Ooooohhh, germs!)
- Sleeping in an oxygen tent to reverse the aging process. (May be apocryphal)
- Attempting to buy the Elephant Man’s bones.
- Construction from scratch of a large scale amusement park on his property.
Need I go on?
Then, of course, there is the statutory rape of multiple children. To the shame of the legal system, he got away with it in court. I would have no hesitation in committing him indefinitely to a psychiatric institution.
It is clear you have not read a single word in this thread. You need not go on, but exit because EVERYTHING you are talking about has already been addressed and made clear.
Bells
Staff member
Now you think that being a paedophile is constructive and positive? So inviting small children to your home, plying them with alcohol and sleeping naked with them in the same bed is "constructive and positive"? And you think we should all strive to 'be like Mike'?
He's a better human being for having sex with children?
Ok I need to ask you a question Lix.
Lets say one day you become a parent. And your small child goes to stay over at a friends house for the night, as children tend to do in sleep over's and what not. Your child comes home the next morning and you ask them if they had a good time. Your child then tells you that he slept with his friends naked father. What would your reaction be? What would your reaction be if your child said 'little Timmy's dad touched me down there'?
Would you feel outraged? Disgusted? Murderous? Or would you tell your child that it is perfectly normal for adult men to invite naked children into their beds when said children come over for sleepovers and that his touching them was to show love? Because your defence of MJ has me concerned that you think such behaviour to not only be normal, but also acceptable.
As for MJ's face. Two plastic surgeries and age does not explain:
Why do you even post here?
Do you even read the crap that you post? Look at this question: "Now you think that being a paedophile is constructive and positive?" Presumptuous. Pointless. Irrelevant to anything I have been discussing.
The answer. Hell no do I have any intention of continuing to read the rest of your post nor do I have any reason to take anything you say seriously. You do not seem to know how to have a legit discussion, and therefore will continue to be igonored by me, and hopefully by everybody else around here.
You're funny.
Here is how you have addressed the various points that have been raised:
If you can't hear the truth then you don't have to address it, right?
MJ is definitely insane.
Not only has he altered his appearance in what can only be described as disfigurement, but his reputation with children and his alleged actions are horrifying.
His mind is stuck in the childhood he never had, indicating a lack of emotional developement, which is never a good thing.
Granted some of his actions can be overlooked, but alot of them cant.
The man needs help, and supervision when children are around.
Not only has he altered his appearance in what can only be described as disfigurement, but his reputation with children and his alleged actions are horrifying.
His mind is stuck in the childhood he never had, indicating a lack of emotional developement, which is never a good thing.
Granted some of his actions can be overlooked, but alot of them cant.
The man needs help, and supervision when children are around.
No I am not. The troll is you. You are just mad because nobody wants to respond to your lack of ability to discuss what is on topic. Then you go around threatening me as if I am the one that is trolling simply because I do not want to respond to your farce posts. You have yet to make a legitimate post in this thread. The only reason you want to close this thread is because nobody wants to discuss your off topic presumptuopus posts. Abuse of mod privilages.
Bells
Staff member
No. The reason I am having to actively moderate this thread is because every time someone disagrees with you, you accuse them of not only not discussing the thread, when they clearly are, or you respond with comments such as:
The above being the reason why YOU received a warning in the first place.lixluke said:
You have claimed that MJ is a bastion of humanity and society and that we, as a society, should all aspire to be just like him. When others have disagreed with you and pointed out his flaws and those horrid flaws being the primary reason as to why as a society we should not strive to be like him, you disagree and accuse them of not being able to understand the thread and you resort to your nomal "TROLL" accusations. You then proceed to troll and flame your own thread.
I am quite willing to leave the thread open for now and discuss MJ's mental capacity and stability and have said thread here in Human Science since we are dealing with a subject that pertains to human sciences, of sorts. But keep going as YOU are and YOU will receive not only infractions for your behaviour (flaming and trolling), but I will end up having to cesspool this thread due to your contributions to it.
"You have claimed that MJ is a bastion of humanity and society and that we, as a society, should all aspire to be just like him."
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Correct. This is my claim.
"When others have disagreed with you and pointed out his flaws and those horrid flaws being the primary reason as to why as a society we should not strive to be like him, you disagree and accuse them of not being able to understand the thread and you resort to your nomal "TROLL" accusations."
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Wrong. It is against the rules to post a troll image. The image that that total asshole posted has nothing to do with the discussion. It is specifically for harassment purposes. I have seen many assholes on many forums use those types of images because they think it is a cute and funny way to get their point accross. It is in fact an obnoxious violation of the rules.
I have never once gave anybody an ill response for disagreeing with me as you constantly accuse me of. There are reasons for my responses, and if somebody disagrees with me, it is fine.
You furthermore twist the meaning of what I am writing. I CLEARLY STATE that the reason I am not responding. If it is either something that has already been addressed or something that is a twisted meaining of what I am saying. CLEARLY STATE that those are the reasons I am not responding, and I CLEARLY STATE that the reason I am not responding is not because I disagree with the opintion. Then you come and claim that the reason I am not responding is because I disagree. TOTAL FALLACY.
PERFECT EXAMPLE OF YOU TWISTING WHAT I SAY:
"Now you think that being a paedophile is constructive and positive?"
1. You know FULL WELL I never stated this at all in this thread.
2. You either are intentionally misinterpreting what I say, or are so pathetically illiterate that you do not belong here.
3. I state clearly that I do not respond to this type of discussion because it is not productive and not on topic.
4. You claim that I stated I do not respond because I disagree with it.
Simple: STOP ACCUSING ME OF NOT RESPONDING BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING.
If I refuse to respond to something there is a good reason, and even if there was not, I do not have the obligation to respond to you or anybody I feel is not worth the time to conversation. Usually because they are too obnoxious to participate in this argument legitimately. Never becuase I disagree with what they are saying. Everybody has the right to disagree, and everybody has the right to not respond to foolish posts that attempt to twist what is being discussed.
You try to twist my words into something I never said, then threaten to close this thread because I refuse to respond to that crap. And it is not crap because I disagree with it as you so readily accuse. It is crap because it is an illegitimage form of discussion.
Take the following post for example:
Stop claiming the reason I am not responding to this because I disagree with this.
This is simply a post from an individual that has not read what I already wrote. I have no reason to respond to somethimg that I have already addressed.
You twist EVERYTHING I say, and even twist the reason I do not respond to certain comments claiming that I disagree with them. You are a troll. That is what trolls do. Even though I make it clear that the reason I do not respond is because it is something that I have already addressed, you twist it, and claim that I do not respond because I disagree.
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Correct. This is my claim.
"When others have disagreed with you and pointed out his flaws and those horrid flaws being the primary reason as to why as a society we should not strive to be like him, you disagree and accuse them of not being able to understand the thread and you resort to your nomal "TROLL" accusations."
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Wrong. It is against the rules to post a troll image. The image that that total asshole posted has nothing to do with the discussion. It is specifically for harassment purposes. I have seen many assholes on many forums use those types of images because they think it is a cute and funny way to get their point accross. It is in fact an obnoxious violation of the rules.
I have never once gave anybody an ill response for disagreeing with me as you constantly accuse me of. There are reasons for my responses, and if somebody disagrees with me, it is fine.
You furthermore twist the meaning of what I am writing. I CLEARLY STATE that the reason I am not responding. If it is either something that has already been addressed or something that is a twisted meaining of what I am saying. CLEARLY STATE that those are the reasons I am not responding, and I CLEARLY STATE that the reason I am not responding is not because I disagree with the opintion. Then you come and claim that the reason I am not responding is because I disagree. TOTAL FALLACY.
PERFECT EXAMPLE OF YOU TWISTING WHAT I SAY:
"Now you think that being a paedophile is constructive and positive?"
1. You know FULL WELL I never stated this at all in this thread.
2. You either are intentionally misinterpreting what I say, or are so pathetically illiterate that you do not belong here.
3. I state clearly that I do not respond to this type of discussion because it is not productive and not on topic.
4. You claim that I stated I do not respond because I disagree with it.
Simple: STOP ACCUSING ME OF NOT RESPONDING BECAUSE I DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING.
If I refuse to respond to something there is a good reason, and even if there was not, I do not have the obligation to respond to you or anybody I feel is not worth the time to conversation. Usually because they are too obnoxious to participate in this argument legitimately. Never becuase I disagree with what they are saying. Everybody has the right to disagree, and everybody has the right to not respond to foolish posts that attempt to twist what is being discussed.
You try to twist my words into something I never said, then threaten to close this thread because I refuse to respond to that crap. And it is not crap because I disagree with it as you so readily accuse. It is crap because it is an illegitimage form of discussion.
Take the following post for example:
No I have not obligation to respond to this.
Stop claiming the reason I am not responding to this because I disagree with this.
This is simply a post from an individual that has not read what I already wrote. I have no reason to respond to somethimg that I have already addressed.
You twist EVERYTHING I say, and even twist the reason I do not respond to certain comments claiming that I disagree with them. You are a troll. That is what trolls do. Even though I make it clear that the reason I do not respond is because it is something that I have already addressed, you twist it, and claim that I do not respond because I disagree.
Bells
Staff member
So now you're saying the child in the image is that of a troll?
You're obsessed with that word aren't you?
I personally found the image apt and quite amusing to be honest. There is no rule that states one cannot use images to get one's point across.
LOL!
Ermmm CS, you forget I know you from long ago on these boards. And you forget that all your posts are still there for all to see. Every time someone disagrees with you, you go off your nut, as you are right now.
Refer to above.
Lets see. You agreed when I said you had claimed that MJ was a "bastion of humanity and society and that we, as a society, should all aspire to be just like him"?
In that, I then challenged your claim by asking you if you agreed that since MJ liked little boys that little bit too much, whether you think that a paedophile was "constructive and positive", as you described MJ yourself?
Valid question I believe. I was not misinterpreting what you said, I merely sought clarification on your beliefs about MJ. And it is very much on topic because you have said that MJ is a "bastion of humanity and society and that we, as a society, should all aspire to be just like him". So, should we all try to be like him and molest young boys?
Oh I am not accusing you of that. What I am accusing you of is that you are trolling and flaming your own thread.
If you read through the posts, everyone has said that there is something wrong with MJ and that he should not be left alone with small children as a minimum, all have challenged your claim that MJ is a ""bastion of humanity and society and that we, as a society, should all aspire to be just like him". Your response? Well, I believe the picture of that little girl blocking her ears would be quite an apt description... 'I'm not listening...'.. along with your stamping your feet in a temper tantrum.
No you have no obligation to respond. And if you don't, then the thread is considered dead and I simply close it and move it aside.
When someone disagrees, we have all been witness to your response... "TROLL!!".. has been about it. Yes everyone has the right to disagree. And everyone in this thread has disagreed with you. So far you have not born it well at all.
No. I threatened to close the thread if you were going to keep responding to people participating in it with replies such as this:
lixluke said:
And you had been warned about such posts before.
You made the assertion that MJ was an idol we, as a society, should all aspire to be. End disagreed and said that MJ was insane and should not have contact with small children without supervision. In direct contradiction to your claims. While you don't have to respond to it, the answer End gave was and is directly valid to your claims. But as has been evidenced in this thread, your replies have been akin to:
I looked for images of Bubbles doing the actions, but couldn't be bothered delving too much. Apt no?
Am I twisting everything you say? Or was I seeking clarification on your statements?
As for calling me a troll... LOL.. Expected and typical of you. If you can't reply, your stock answer has always been "TROLL!". I don't need to twist what you say. All I, or anyone else, needs to do is to ask you a question or clarification and off you go on your tangent.
Now, if you don't wish to reply to this, fine. No skin off my nose really. But if you keep refusing to respond to everyone who participates and instead you act like a troll and flame this thread, I will close and move it. And if you just refuse to respond, again, the thread will just die off anyway. Or we can all just carry on discussing MJ's mental state and ignore you. We'll see what the future holds.
You enjoy intentionally twisting what I say when that is not what I said. You do so repeatedly. I suggest you get lost because I have no intention of responding to your twisted crap and your false claims that I am not listening to people that disagree with me. You are trolling when I specifically spelled out the reason I do not intend to respond to these post. Obviously you skipped those statements about the reasons I provided for considering those items irrelevant. Something is not irrelevant because I disagree with it as you falsely claim. It is irrelevant because it has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
Troll images are a violation of the rules. I already explained that a troll image is not an image of a troll, but an image meant to troll. Of course, you conveniently overlooked that part. You do not know what a troll image is, and you refuse to achnowledge them. You infact even post them constantly. Get lost.
The only reason I made that reply was in response to a troll. Why not threaten the idiot who started the flame war instead of the one responding to it. You cannot post troll images, and you cannot expect me to not flame back at a jackass that flames me first. He started it, and he posted an illegal troll image.