thats called extermination. i leave them the extermination part, as my only intention is to make them surrender.
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thats called extermination. i leave them the extermination part, as my only intention is to make them surrender.
i know whats called and as far as i can tell that is what you want to do. they won't surrender untill they are reasonably compinsated for the land taken from them or are you to blind to see that
just a pretty way to say israel destruction, since they consider israel as their land and jews as an abomination.
they wont get anything from me.
it is their land thats the root of the whole fucking problem
so we should move to antartica?
no the problem is not so much that the land was taken from them but that they were never PAID for it
Not really. The problem is that they were expecting to get their country after years under Ottoman rule and it was given away without anyone considering the impact on them.
The expulsion of the Palestinians"
"Forcible expulsions were commonly practiced by the Jewish/Israeli military during 1948: Qisariya on February 15; Arab Zahrat al-Dumayri, al-Rama and Khirbat al-Sarkas in April; al-Ghabisiya, Danna, Najd and Zarnuqa the next month; Jaba, Ein Ghazal and Ijzim on July 24; and al-Bi'na and Deir al-Assad on October 31, among many others. Israeli historian Benny Morris has identified 34 Arab communities whose inhabitants were ousted. We may never know the full extent of the ejections, though, because, as Morris notes, the Israeli Defense Forces Archive "has a standing policy guideline not to open material explicitly describing expulsions and atrocities."[6]
More often, though, the instruments of expulsion were the terrorizing and demoralization of the Arab population. Jewish military forces used several tactics in pursuit of these goals.
One was psychological warfare. Radio broadcasts in Arabic warned of traitors in the Arabs' midst, spread fears of disease, reported confusion and terror among the Arabs, described the Palestinians as having been deserted by their leaders, and accused Arab militias of committing crimes against Arab civilians.[7]
Another effective psywar tactic involved the use of loudspeaker trucks. At various times they urged the Palestinians to flee before they were all killed, warned that the Jews were using poison gas and atomic weapons, or played recorded "horror sounds"--shrieks, moans, the wail of sirens and the clang of fire-alarm bells.[8]
A second tactic, economic warfare, was a favorite of Ben-Gurion, who described "the strategic objective" of the Jewish forces to be "to destroy the [Arab] urban communities." "Deprived of transportation, food, and raw materials," he later noted with satisfaction, "the urban communities underwent a process of disintegration, chaos, and hunger."[9]
A third technique to induce Arab flight was military attack on a town's Arab population. These assaults often used Davidka mortars--horribly inaccurate, but useful for creating terror--and barrel bombs. The latter consisted of barrels, casks, and metal drums filled with a mixture of explosives and fuel oil. Rolled into the Arab section of a town, they created "an inferno of raging flames and endless explosions." Another destructive maneuver described by writer Arthur Koestler was the "ruthless dynamiting of block after block" of the Arab community.[10]
Not uncommonly, the Jewish forces resorted to simple terrorism. Sometimes this took the form of bombs planted in vehicles or buildings: 30 killed in Jaffa on Jan. 4., 1948, with a truck bomb; 20 killed the next day when the Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was bombed; 17 killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem two days later.[11]
More often, a Jewish military force entered an Arab village and massacred civilians, either during a night raid or after the seizure of the village. The massacres started early: Major General R. Dare Wilson, who served with the British troops trying to keep peace in Palestine before the end of the British Mandate, reported that on Dec. 18, 1947, the Haganah murdered 10, mostly women and children, in the Arab village of al-Khisas with grenades and machine gun fire. Wilson also described how on Dec. 31 the Haganah slaughtered another 14, again mostly women and children, again using machine guns and throwing grenades into occupied homes, this time in Balad Esh-Sheikh.[12]
Throughout 1948, the massacres continued: 60 at Sa'sa' on Feb. 15; 100 murdered in Acre after its May 18 seizure by the Haganah; several hundred at Lydda on July 12, including 80 machine-gunned inside the Dahmash Mosque; 100 at Dawayma on Oct. 29, with an Israeli eye-witness reporting that "the children were killed by smashing their skulls with clubs"; 13 young men mowed down by machine guns in open fields outside Eilabun on Oct. 30; another 70 young men blindfolded and shot to death, one after another, at Safsaf the same day; 12 killed at Majd al-Kurum, also on Oct. 30, with a Belgian U.N. observer writing that "there is no doubt about these murders"; an unknown number killed the next day at al-Bi'na and Deir al-Assad, described by a U.N. official as "wanton slaying without provocation"; 14 "liquidated," according to the Israeli military's report, at Khirbet al-Wa'ra as-Sauda on Nov. 2.[13]
A particularly repugnant method of killing employed by the Jewish militias was the blowing up of houses with their occupants still inside, often at night. The militia would place explosive charges around the stone houses, drench the wooden window and door frames with gasoline, and then open fire, simultaneously dynamiting and burning the sleeping inhabitants to death.[14]
The supreme act of terrorism by Jewish militias was the slaughter of nearly the entire village of Deir Yassin on April 9, 1948. According to Jacques de Reynier, a Swiss physician working for the Red Cross who arrived before the bloodletting had ended, 254 people were "deliberately massacred in cold blood." "All I could think of," he later said, "was the SS troops I had seen in Athens." According to Meir Pa'il, who served as a communications officer for the Haganah in Deir Yassin and was present during the assault, 25 male survivors were taken to Jerusalem and paraded through the streets in a perverse victory celebration, then shot in cold blood.[15]
Menachem Begin, the leader of the Irgun, one of the militias involved in the horror at Deir Yassin, called the atrocity a "splendid act of conquest." In 1977, Begin was elected Prime Minister of Israel.[16]
The massacre at Deir Yassin played a crucial role in undermining the morale of the Palestinian population. As de Reynier, the Swiss physician, wrote, "a general terror was built up among the Arabs, a terror astutely fostered by the Jews."[17]
Once the Israeli military had forced the Palestinians to flee, various Israeli institutions attempted to insure that there would be no return. The new Israeli government decided on June 16, 1948--just a month after Israel had declared independence, and before half of the refugees had even become such--that it would not permit the Palestinians to return to their homeland. The military, meanwhile, worked to render return a physical impossibility. Its forces leveled 418 Palestinian towns and villages, erasing the majority of Palestinian society from the face of the earth.[18]
Completing the process of dispossession, Israel took control of land owned by the Arabs whom it would not allow to return. Before 1948, Jews owned only 1.5 million of the 26 million dunams of land in Palestine. (A dunam, the local measure of land area, is a quarter-acre.) After the eviction of the Palestinians, Israel controlled 20 million dunams, an increase from 6% to 77% of the total. They simply stole an entire country.[19]
Moshe Dayan, Israeli war hero, described this reality succinctly in a 1969 speech: "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist; not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. ... There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."[20]"
http://www.robincmiller.com/pales2.htm
"Forcible expulsions were commonly practiced by the Jewish/Israeli military during 1948: Qisariya on February 15; Arab Zahrat al-Dumayri, al-Rama and Khirbat al-Sarkas in April; al-Ghabisiya, Danna, Najd and Zarnuqa the next month; Jaba, Ein Ghazal and Ijzim on July 24; and al-Bi'na and Deir al-Assad on October 31, among many others. Israeli historian Benny Morris has identified 34 Arab communities whose inhabitants were ousted. We may never know the full extent of the ejections, though, because, as Morris notes, the Israeli Defense Forces Archive "has a standing policy guideline not to open material explicitly describing expulsions and atrocities."[6]
More often, though, the instruments of expulsion were the terrorizing and demoralization of the Arab population. Jewish military forces used several tactics in pursuit of these goals.
One was psychological warfare. Radio broadcasts in Arabic warned of traitors in the Arabs' midst, spread fears of disease, reported confusion and terror among the Arabs, described the Palestinians as having been deserted by their leaders, and accused Arab militias of committing crimes against Arab civilians.[7]
Another effective psywar tactic involved the use of loudspeaker trucks. At various times they urged the Palestinians to flee before they were all killed, warned that the Jews were using poison gas and atomic weapons, or played recorded "horror sounds"--shrieks, moans, the wail of sirens and the clang of fire-alarm bells.[8]
A second tactic, economic warfare, was a favorite of Ben-Gurion, who described "the strategic objective" of the Jewish forces to be "to destroy the [Arab] urban communities." "Deprived of transportation, food, and raw materials," he later noted with satisfaction, "the urban communities underwent a process of disintegration, chaos, and hunger."[9]
A third technique to induce Arab flight was military attack on a town's Arab population. These assaults often used Davidka mortars--horribly inaccurate, but useful for creating terror--and barrel bombs. The latter consisted of barrels, casks, and metal drums filled with a mixture of explosives and fuel oil. Rolled into the Arab section of a town, they created "an inferno of raging flames and endless explosions." Another destructive maneuver described by writer Arthur Koestler was the "ruthless dynamiting of block after block" of the Arab community.[10]
Not uncommonly, the Jewish forces resorted to simple terrorism. Sometimes this took the form of bombs planted in vehicles or buildings: 30 killed in Jaffa on Jan. 4., 1948, with a truck bomb; 20 killed the next day when the Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was bombed; 17 killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem two days later.[11]
More often, a Jewish military force entered an Arab village and massacred civilians, either during a night raid or after the seizure of the village. The massacres started early: Major General R. Dare Wilson, who served with the British troops trying to keep peace in Palestine before the end of the British Mandate, reported that on Dec. 18, 1947, the Haganah murdered 10, mostly women and children, in the Arab village of al-Khisas with grenades and machine gun fire. Wilson also described how on Dec. 31 the Haganah slaughtered another 14, again mostly women and children, again using machine guns and throwing grenades into occupied homes, this time in Balad Esh-Sheikh.[12]
Throughout 1948, the massacres continued: 60 at Sa'sa' on Feb. 15; 100 murdered in Acre after its May 18 seizure by the Haganah; several hundred at Lydda on July 12, including 80 machine-gunned inside the Dahmash Mosque; 100 at Dawayma on Oct. 29, with an Israeli eye-witness reporting that "the children were killed by smashing their skulls with clubs"; 13 young men mowed down by machine guns in open fields outside Eilabun on Oct. 30; another 70 young men blindfolded and shot to death, one after another, at Safsaf the same day; 12 killed at Majd al-Kurum, also on Oct. 30, with a Belgian U.N. observer writing that "there is no doubt about these murders"; an unknown number killed the next day at al-Bi'na and Deir al-Assad, described by a U.N. official as "wanton slaying without provocation"; 14 "liquidated," according to the Israeli military's report, at Khirbet al-Wa'ra as-Sauda on Nov. 2.[13]
A particularly repugnant method of killing employed by the Jewish militias was the blowing up of houses with their occupants still inside, often at night. The militia would place explosive charges around the stone houses, drench the wooden window and door frames with gasoline, and then open fire, simultaneously dynamiting and burning the sleeping inhabitants to death.[14]
The supreme act of terrorism by Jewish militias was the slaughter of nearly the entire village of Deir Yassin on April 9, 1948. According to Jacques de Reynier, a Swiss physician working for the Red Cross who arrived before the bloodletting had ended, 254 people were "deliberately massacred in cold blood." "All I could think of," he later said, "was the SS troops I had seen in Athens." According to Meir Pa'il, who served as a communications officer for the Haganah in Deir Yassin and was present during the assault, 25 male survivors were taken to Jerusalem and paraded through the streets in a perverse victory celebration, then shot in cold blood.[15]
Menachem Begin, the leader of the Irgun, one of the militias involved in the horror at Deir Yassin, called the atrocity a "splendid act of conquest." In 1977, Begin was elected Prime Minister of Israel.[16]
The massacre at Deir Yassin played a crucial role in undermining the morale of the Palestinian population. As de Reynier, the Swiss physician, wrote, "a general terror was built up among the Arabs, a terror astutely fostered by the Jews."[17]
Once the Israeli military had forced the Palestinians to flee, various Israeli institutions attempted to insure that there would be no return. The new Israeli government decided on June 16, 1948--just a month after Israel had declared independence, and before half of the refugees had even become such--that it would not permit the Palestinians to return to their homeland. The military, meanwhile, worked to render return a physical impossibility. Its forces leveled 418 Palestinian towns and villages, erasing the majority of Palestinian society from the face of the earth.[18]
Completing the process of dispossession, Israel took control of land owned by the Arabs whom it would not allow to return. Before 1948, Jews owned only 1.5 million of the 26 million dunams of land in Palestine. (A dunam, the local measure of land area, is a quarter-acre.) After the eviction of the Palestinians, Israel controlled 20 million dunams, an increase from 6% to 77% of the total. They simply stole an entire country.[19]
Moshe Dayan, Israeli war hero, described this reality succinctly in a 1969 speech: "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist; not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. ... There is not one single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."[20]"
http://www.robincmiller.com/pales2.htm
Sure they will. They already have received much - bullets, rockets, destroyed homes, used in the free bulldozer demonstrations shows Israel frequently gives, and don't forget that fine wall - What a great "canvas" for graphitti.
With the help of Iran and a few others, these grateful people are planning to give something back in return. - They are not sure yet just what it will be, but aerosol delivery is planned.
Everyone says that the best things come in tiny packages. - Well you cannot get much smaller than anthrax spores or Ebola virus particles.
As you cannot see the future* as well as I can, it will a "surprise party" on delivery day; but don't say I did not alert you years in advance. - There is plenty of time to adopt a truly defensive alternative, such as I have suggested, instead of "staying the course" with the "High kill ratio" option that has failed for more than 40 years.
*No one can with hate blinded eyes.
I really appreciate your posts. They look at the issue deeply and differently. However, I wonder whether your suggestions are based on any real sources or are just part of your own imaginary strategies of fighting. I wonder why Al-Qaeda or another group hasn't yet used your tactics if that was as easy as you mention here?
BTW, I don't understand why all this propaganda about Iran arming Hamas. I wonder how Iran possibly could send weapons to the Palestinians given the fact that they can only do this from the northern border which I believe is strictly guarded by the occupation army, especially after the 2006 war. The gaza coasts are already too much controlled to risk any such attempt. Does Iran how a magical way of weapons transfer, a star gate for example?!
And these people claim to be the victims of a Holocaust?!!
Thanks. Because of part of your text I made bold, is true I have been able to see things coming before the crowd. This has converted a "poor starving full-need scholarship" student, who in 3d undergraduate year could not get bus fare together for 250 mile Thanksgiving trip home, into a multi-millionaire. I have shared my foresight with others here - for example, many years ago told all to buy ADRs of Brazil and India and a few years ago told those too scared to do so to buy Treasury TIPs. In dollars the ADRs are up about 1000% and the TIPs are doing very well now that everyone is realizing we are in for bad inflation as the FED fights (a losing battle) against the coming depression. -Already FED's interest rate is less than US inflation rate.
As far as the biological attack by aerosol agents on major Israeli cities is concerned, the technology is not yet there, but will be in less than a decade. Several governments, including the US, Russia (and China, perhaps) have had this technology for at least a decade.
Unlike nuclear bombs, which require both knowledge and very hard to obtain materials, the biological attack only requires easy to obtain materials and a leak (or independent development) of the already existent knowledge. US, Russia and especially China (with multi-million man army) are not likely to employ any biologic attacks, even if they had an enemy they wanted to completely destroy, because the lethal agents do not discriminate between victims based on their political POVs. I.e. the attacking county / forces must be willing to lose a few hundred thousand people also.
As living condition in Palestine continue to deteriorate, towards genocide end as has already happen to the Negev/ Sinai Bedouins*, this inhibition goes away and the attitude will increasingly become: “If we are to die, at least we can take the Israelis down too.” Currently, only a small percentage of the people in Gaza etc think that way and supply the suicide bombers etc. but their numbers are growing under Israel's High kill ratio policy and collective punishment reduction in the quality of life available in Gaza. Unlike the coming and now unavoidable depression, I forecast several years ago (Long before you hear the words "subprime mortgage") there is still plenty of time to avoid the not yet feasible biological attack on Israeli cities, but doing so will require Israel to replace its 40+ year failed approach to the problem with a true defensive approach, instead of continued "tit for tat" High Kill ratio retaliation and "collective punishment.".
I do not really know, but guess that most go via Iraq and Syria. Relative small items of high value are impossible to stop via border guards - Look at the drugs flowing into the US for example. In the case of a biological agent only a very tiny amount is required to cross the border ONCE, if you can culture more in eggs etc. in a basement or tiny cave, etc. So little is required that a homing pigeon could import it in a sealed container!
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*Anthrax is available in soil of almost all cattle farms, but you must know how to convert it to the inhalation version. Ebola would require a person willing to die from it going to certain parts of Africa, probably several such person before one became sick with Ebola and returned for his "martyr’s reward." I know little about all this biology. I think the quite pro-Israel SpiderGoat could tell you many more facts. He may, however, be almost as blinded by hate as Mr. Spock to what the real danger to Israel is.
**These Bedouins once numbered more than 65,000 and now have less than 150 children of school age - far too few to make another generation. Their genocide by Israel is essentially complete.
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so why did they rejected the white book? and the partition plan?
and they were paid for that land, despite the arab propaganda machine.
i cant overlook the hypocracy. israel actions always breed suicide bombers, and yet, the palestinians actions dont create "high kill ratio". you can explain that point?
if thats their plan, why not give them the surprise first?
So what changed after thousands of years?
Could it be the Balfour proposal to build a Jewish state in Palestine in 1917?
So what changed after thousands of years?
Could it be the Balfour proposal to build a Jewish state in Palestine in 1917?
yes, thats the problem. a jewish state. always have, always be, and until the abomination, the zionist entity, the jewish state, will not be destroyed, they will never stop.
I bet if the UN decided to return all Palestine to Palestinians and they moved back (after 60 years rather than 2000), you'd see some action from the Israelis.
the israelis did not reject the partition plan. i have no problem with a palestinian state, but the problem is that in the current situation, there are no conditions for peace. every territory we leave for the palestinians, they see it as one step closer to eliminate israel. its a religious belief probably, above all other things.
unfortunate as it sounds, we are headed for an all out war. and most israelis are fed up with giving their hand for peace, and only get bitten in the end. as do i.
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