Oil Depletion and the Second Law of Thermodynamics: THE ETP MODEL

[billvon]

So, anyway, I do hereby resign my membership to this so called science forum, again.

You seem to be not understanding the process here.
You keep saying "I resign" then clicking the "Post Reply" button. You have done this at least six times so far. The process of resigning requires NOT clicking the "Post Reply" button. See if you can manage that.

 

[Kittamaru]

Blog hits are not the same as profile reads.

Thanks for the offer to say more stuff about this stupid site. But I am done here.



---Futilitist

Classic "everybody else is wrong, I'm right" meltdown... never gets old!

 

[Billy T]

Since Futitilist is too ignorant to understand the physics, chemistry, and economic refutations of his etp model that he has received from more than half a dozen who know those subjects well, I'll try one from history back when the world ran on wood energy:

Peak Wooder: We are so screwed. Where are we going to get enough wood to meet demand? Everything we do -- our entire society is based on wood.
We'll collapse without it.

Cornucopio: We'll switch to coal.

Peak Wooder: Oh, yeah right. And monkeys are gonna fly out of my butt. You idiot. Our whole economy is based on cheap wood. Wagons, housing, tools, transport, shipping, cooking, packaging, heating, blacksmithing, furniture. We're doomed without it. Do you have any idea how foul coal is? And how far you have to go to get it? Where are you going to get the wood to move all that coal? For God sakes, wood just grows out of the ground, and you're proposing that we dig into solid rock for that filthy substandard junk? You need to up your medication.

Do you have any idea how many people its going to take to dig those holes? And how are you going to make their houses, and keep them warm, and get them to the job without wood? What are you going to make their shovels and wagons out of? The only reason those people can dig coal now is because they're subsidized with cheap wood!!! And even supposing that you could marshall all those people you need to do the digging, you'll just hit water, and then it's game over. You can't bail out the water because YOU NEED WOOD TO MAKE THE F*CKING BUCKETS. Sorry man, but coal is nothing but a bunch of wishful thinking. You're pinning all your hopes on it because you're afraid to face the fact that our wood-based society is doomed. The stupid, myopic wood party is over and the hangover is going to be a killer. There is simply nothing which can replace the convenience, versatility and cheapness 'of wood'. { 'of oil,' for those too dim-witted to see the point without this help}

 

[Futilitist]

You seem to be not understanding the process here.
You keep saying "I resign" then clicking the "Post Reply" button. You have done this at least six times so far. The process of resigning requires NOT clicking the "Post Reply" button. See if you can manage that.

Woops, I guess I couldn't manage it.

Maybe it is because you keep writing comments to me. You must really miss me. Get over it.

And please don't follow me somewhere else this time. I have never enjoyed talking to you.



---Futilitist

Classic "everybody else is wrong, I'm right" meltdown... never gets old!

I am glad you are getting a good laugh at my expense, bully.



---Futilitist

 

[Kittamaru]

Woops, I guess I couldn't manage it.

Maybe it is because you keep writing comments to me. You must really miss me. Get over it.

And please don't follow me somewhere else this time. I have never enjoyed talking to you.



---Futilitist

My guess is you didn't enjoy talking to someone who didn't fall for your sensationalist bullshit

I am glad you are getting a good laugh at my expense, bully.



---Futilitist

You will, of course, provide evidence to show that I am in some way bullying you; after all, you don't wish to break yet another of the sites rules (ie, making claims without evidence), do you?

 

[Futilitist]

Hey there Billy T.

I have no idea what you are saying. I have you on permanent ignore



---Futilitist

 

[Kittamaru]

Hey there Billy T.

I have no idea what you are saying. I have you on permanent ignore



---Futilitist

Allow me to enlighten you:

[QUOTE="Billy T, post: 3294348, member: 17004"]Since Futitilist is too ignorant to understand the  physics, chemistry, and economic refutations of his etp model that he has received from more than half a dozen who know those subjects well, I'll try one from history back when the world ran on wood energy:

Peak Wooder: We are so screwed. Where are we going to get enough wood to meet demand? Everything we do -- our entire society is based on wood.
We'll collapse without it.

Cornucopio: We'll switch to coal.

Peak Wooder: Oh, yeah right. And monkeys are gonna fly out of my butt. You idiot. Our whole economy is based on cheap wood. Wagons, housing, tools, transport, shipping, cooking, packaging, heating, blacksmithing, furniture. We're doomed without it. Do you have any idea how foul coal is? And how far you have to go to get it? Where are you going to get the wood to move all that coal? For God sakes, wood just grows out of the ground, and you're proposing that we dig into solid rock for that filthy substandard junk? You need to up your medication.

Do you have any idea how many people its going to take to dig those holes? And how are you going to make their houses, and keep them warm, and get them to the job without wood? What are you going to make their shovels and wagons out of? The only reason those people can dig coal now is because they're subsidized with cheap wood!!! And even supposing that you could marshall all those people you need to do the digging, you'll just hit water, and then it's game over. You can't bail out the water because YOU NEED WOOD TO MAKE THE F*CKING BUCKETS. Sorry man, but coal is nothing but a bunch of wishful thinking. You're pinning all your hopes on it because you're afraid to face the fact that our wood-based society is doomed. The stupid, myopic wood party is over and the hangover is going to be a killer. There is simply nothing which can replace the convenience, versatility and cheapness 'of wood'. { 'of oil,' for those too dim-witted to see the point without this help}[/QUOTE]

 

[Futilitist]

You will, of course, provide evidence to show that I am in some way bullying you; after all, you don't wish to break yet another of the sites rules (ie, making claims without evidence), do you?

You are right about that. I certainly wouldn't want to break the rules.

I will present the evidence as you request. But I need some time to prepare my case. Should I start a new thread to present the evidence?



---Futilitist

 

[Futilitist]

Allow me to enlighten you:

How?



---Futilitist

 

[Kittamaru]

You are right about that. I certainly wouldn't want to break the rules.

I will present the evidence as you request. But I need some time to prepare my case. Should I start a new thread to present the evidence?



---Futilitist

Given how freely you toss that accusation, I suspect you needn't much time; after all, I know full well what evidence you will try to bring and how wrong it will be... so how does an hour sound?

How?



---Futilitist

Perhaps if you would open your eyes, you would see

 

[Futilitist]

Given how freely you toss that accusation, I suspect you needn't much time; after all, I know full well what evidence you will try to bring and how wrong it will be... so how does an hour sound?

That won't work for me, your honor. I have other things to do today. We will just have to reschedule. Or, since you already know the outcome, you could just pass judgement without letting me gather my evidence, like the kangaroo court that this is.



---Futilitist

 

[Kittamaru]

That won't work for me, your honor. I have other things to do today. We will just have to reschedule. Or you could just pass judgement without letting me gather my evidence, like the kangaroo court that this is.



---Futilitist

Ironic that you would call this a Kangaroo Court - you see, when you signed up here, you agreed to be bound by the rules of this site.

Given that you have chosen to willfully violate them several times, and that a cursory glance into your history on other forums has shown this to be a pattern of behavior spanning several years... I don't see why it would matter if I gave you an hour or a year. Your argument, in essence, boils down to the fact that you consistently consider people who don't agree with you to be below you/ignorant/trolls/et al.

None the less - take all the time you wish. I genuinely look forward to what will no doubt be an entertaining spectacle of falsehoods, misrepresentations, and lies

 

[Futilitist]

None the less - take all the time you wish. I genuinely look forward to what will no doubt be an entertaining spectacle of falsehoods, misrepresentations, and lies

Naw, I was just kidding. I don't care enough.

Nice bear.



---Futilitist

 

[Kittamaru]

Naw, I was just kidding. I don't care enough.

Nice bear.



---Futilitist

Indeed, when given the option to try and legitimately prove your point, you back down, knowing full well you cannot.

How droll.

 

[Futilitist]

Ha ha.

This was fun, but I gotta go now. Bye.



---Futilitist

 

[Kittamaru]

At this juncture, I must ask - is there any reason to leave this thread open, or has it run its course?

 

[billvon]

Maybe it is because you keep writing comments to me. You must really miss me.

I have not had the opportunity to miss you. Despite several grand dramatic flourishes leading up to a big trampling exit - you're still here.

I have never enjoyed talking to you.

And yet you continue to do so. Odd. On the other hand, I do get a kick out of your predictions, followed by your attempts to weasel out of them when they fail to materialize.

Well, if you are really leaving this time, good luck finding sycophants.

 

[exchemist]

That is not true. My blog has had 7,645 reads as of today. It has been up only since Aug. of 2012. Why did you just make up the 5 year thing? Your math skills are questionable.

So, anyway, I do hereby resign my membership to this so called science forum, again.

Goodbye.


---Futilitist

Glad to see the immune system of this forum has done its job at last.

 

[exchemist]

At this juncture, I must ask - is there any reason to leave this thread open, or has it run its course?

No I think we have flogged it - and Fatuitist - to death.

 

[Kittamaru]

Fair 'nuff