Oil Reserves in the U.S. Upped

No I never said I was wiser, what I have is more experience in the real world than you do.

What use is experience when you come upon a completely new kind of problem? Even worse what if you don't even learn from past mistakes (take the present war as an example)?

Despite the massive increase in drilling production and capacity of production has not raised, the efficiency of oil mining has gone down dramatically, all the easy to extract oil is depleted and the had stuff that left requires many fold more well heads to extract. These means the price of oil has gone up, making extracting even the hard stuff profitable, problem is the hard stuff can't be extracted fast enough to match world demand and even if it could it would never be cheap like conventional oil was. At best the switch from conventional to unconventional mining will plateau oil for a few years, thus world economy will plateau as well unless we can switch to energy that can scale virtually indefinitely we are now limited by the brutal reality of geology.
 
What use is experience when you come upon a completely new kind of problem? Even worse what if you don't even learn from past mistakes (take the present war as an example)?

Despite the massive increase in drilling production and capacity of production has not raised, the efficiency of oil mining has gone down dramatically, all the easy to extract oil is depleted and the had stuff that left requires many fold more well heads to extract. These means the price of oil has gone up, making extracting even the hard stuff profitable, problem is the hard stuff can't be extracted fast enough to match world demand and even if it could it would never be cheap like conventional oil was. At best the switch from conventional to unconventional mining will plateau oil for a few years, thus world economy will plateau as well unless we can switch to energy that can scale virtually indefinitely we are now limited by the brutal reality of geology.


Sorry to have to disagree with you, there is more crude available on the markets today than ever before.

The reason that production is down is that we don't have the capacity to refine it, so it stays in the ground and is bid up by the futures traders.

62% of Federal land is off limits to exploration and drilling, and 92% of U.S. land is tightly controlled for Drilling and exploration.

It is the energy policies, that were put in place, starting in the 1970's, that are responsible for the present shortage of refined fuels, and shortage of crude oil on the market.

We stopped exploration and drilling in it's tracks, in the 70tys, and only now, are we even trying to find new source of crude oil, but that isn't going to do much as we don't have the capacity to refine the crude, because we haven't built a new Refinery since 1975.

It is going to take 5 to 10 years to catch up in exploration and refining capacity if we start today, 40 years of poor energy exploration, and refinement policy has lead us to this, not a shortage of crude, and it going to take some time to bring it around.

Exploration

Drilling

Transportation

Refinement

Delivery

40 years of letting it all go to hell.
 
What use is experience when you come upon a completely new kind of problem? Even worse what if you don't even learn from past mistakes (take the present war as an example)?

Wat use is inexperence? Experence gives you a starting point, there is no problem that I can't start on using what I know from my experence.

Experence tells me that it can be done, because in my passed experences I have done taken charge and soluved problems that I have never seen before,

Inexperence, tends to lead to the it can't be done complex, which you exibit a superabundance of, it can't be done, how much of your postings have been dedicated to that though?

All you do is post how it can't be done, and that the only way it can be done is with unproven technology that doesn't have the infrastructure to deliver the needed energy to industry and the economy.

Despite the massive increase in drilling production and capacity of production has not raised, the efficiency of oil mining has gone down dramatically, all the easy to extract oil is depleted and the had stuff that left requires many fold more well heads to extract. These means the price of oil has gone up, making extracting even the hard stuff profitable, problem is the hard stuff can't be extracted fast enough to match world demand and even if it could it would never be cheap like conventional oil was. At best the switch from conventional to unconventional mining will plateau oil for a few years, thus world economy will plateau as well unless we can switch to energy that can scale virtually indefinitely we are now limited by the brutal reality of geology.

So we shouldn't try? Again you plead that it can't be done, and it is being done all the time, new finds, new drilling rigs, new ocean platforms, now we need new refineries, or all the exploration the world isn't going to do any good, if we can't convert the crude into a usable product, and there is nothing in place to replace petroleum, as of today.

How long will it take to build the factories, and the refineries to turn your algae into bio fuel, with the mass capacity to supply the U.S. economy? the worlds economy, and do we have the infrastructure to deliver that product to the market in a sustainable manner to the demand?

Yes they may know how to do it, but do they have the ability to do it any time soon? with out wrecking the economy of the world?
 
Inexperence, tends to lead to the it can't be done complex, which you exibit a superabundance of, it can't be done, how much of your postings have been dedicated to that though?

All you do is post how it can't be done, - -
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How long will it take to build the factories, and the refineries to turn your algae into bio fuel, with the mass capacity to supply the U.S. economy? the worlds economy, and do we have the infrastructure to deliver that product to the market in a sustainable manner to the demand?

Yes they may know how to do it, but do they have the ability to do it any time soon? with out wrecking the economy of the world?
Irony is dead. Also known as "you can't parody this shit" .
 
Buffalo Roam,

We have more demand then ever before, and production as barely increased in the last 3 years, yet demand keeps going up exponentially. We have been search for crude all over the world, it never stopped, rather we have been finding less and less and we are now at a point where the new mines and wells that are coming online are only managing to cover the production loses of the old oil fields. There is not enough left to explore and find, your argument is equivalent saying "well if we just search for more continents we will find another!"

As for experience, What use did the USA experience in Vietnam come to in NOT getting into another one? None, experience is useless if its the wrong experience of if it is not interpreted correctly.

It will take as long to build the factors for algae as it would take to build shall oil extraction or coal to liquid plants, point is conventional oil is depleting, we are going to need new infrastructure anyways, why should we make it in another limited resource, especially if that resource is harder utilize and more polluting than another alternative?
 
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Buffalo Roam,

We have more demand then ever before, and production as barely increased in the last 3 years, yet demand keeps going up exponentially. We have been search for crude all over the world, it never stopped, rather we have been finding less and less and we are now at a point where the new mines and wells that are coming online are only managing to cover the production loses of the old oil fields. There is not enough left to explore and find, your argument is equivalent saying "well if we just search for more continents we will find another!"

As for experience, What use did the USA experience in Vietnam come to in NOT getting into another one? None, experience is useless if its the wrong experience of if it is not interpreted correctly.

It will take as long to build the factors for algae as it would take to build shall oil extraction or coal to liquid plants, point is conventional oil is depleting, we are going to need new infrastructure anyways, why should we make it in another limited resource, especially if that resource is harder utilize and more polluting than another alternative?

Really yet we have enough production for the speculators to buy up 850 milliom more barrels than last year?

"The issue is: who's driving up the price? And it's not the oil companies," said Michael Masters, a hedge fund manager.

Masters blames it on a new class of speculators led by pension funds and university endowments, which are buying up huge amounts of oil, nearly 850 million barrels more a year than they did just 5 years ago. That nearly matches the growth in Chinese demand, which is often blamed for rising crude prices

Production of new well is increasing, but again it is capacity to do so that is lacging behind,

U.S.-Cuba Security Cooperation - World Security Institute
Drilling will most likely not begin until 2008 due to a tight market for deep-sea exploration rigs as the world's search for oil intensifies under pressure ...
http://www.wsicubaproject.org/energychron06.cfm

China Confidential: August 2006
China also agreed to build 13 oil drilling rigs and 18 oil tankers for Venezuela. ...... Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has successfully sidelined Vice ...
http://chinaconfidential.blogspot.com/2006_08_01_archive.html

Here it is;

(FORTUNE Magazine) – EVER SINCE crude was discovered at Titusville, Pennsylvania, 134 years ago, U.S. oil producers have been a source and symbol of American industrial prowess. Five of the great Seven Sisters were American. Texas wildcatters drilled the U.S. until it became the biggest oil power in the world, then moved on to the Middle East and made Saudi Arabia the champion. Oceangoing roustabouts from south Louisiana opened up the North Sea oil and gas fields. Now this quintessentially American industry is leaking away like oil into sand. Domestic crude production has been shrinking by roughly 3% a year since 1986. Only about 700 drilling rigs are out exploring, compared with more than 4,500 in 1980.

In 1980 we had 4.500 oil rigs on line, that number had shrunk to 700 rigs by 1983, by 2005 we were at 2026 rigs available for drilling, that is a 50% decrease in rigs available for exploitation of discovered field.

Utilization of rig fleet tightens significantly

Significant gains were made in US and Canadian land fleet sizesand utilization, spurring rig construction. Tracked for the first time,international markets saw growth in utilization, while the global offshore fleet experienced a tightening of numbers.

Steve Berkman and Tory Stokes, ReedHycalog, Houston

Record oil and gas prices during the past year resulted in a dynamic rig fleet, according to the 52nd annual ReedHycalog Rig Census. The number of available rigs in the US and Canada rose again this year. The US rig fleet was up about 2%, and the Canadian fleet gained 9%, compared with 2004. However, the census indicates that the global, offshore mobile fleet decreased 10%. Fleet utilization during the spring census period tightened in all areas, with US utilization now reaching levels common in the early 1980s.


.The US fleet had a net gain of 38 units this year, expanding to 2,026 rigs from 1,988. This net increase results from 211 rig additions and 173 deletions during the past year, Fig. 1.

.The largest gain to the US fleet, 124 units, was due to rigs brought back into service after being inactive. However, a large number of rigs, 133 units, was removed from service, offsetting this gain.

.The number of US rigs meeting the census definition of "active" was 1,920. This compares to 1,674 last year, an increase of 15%.

.US rig utilization shot up to 95% this year from 84% in 2004, Fig. 2.

.Based on recent US activity, day-work contracts continue to be the most prominent of all drilling contracts at 82%, gaining an additional five percentage points since last year.

.The number of US drilling contractors increased by 13 this year to 226, as more companies found it economically viable to operate rigs.

.Contractor survey results indicate that 77 refurbished and 73 newly manufactured units will enter the market during the next 12 months.

.Canada's rig fleet reached another record high, up to 741 units from 680.

.This includes 43 newly manufactured rigs that were additions to the census.

.Canadian utilization climbed to 74% from 66% during the spring census period.

.The global, offshore mobile fleet decreased 10% this year, to 641 rigs versus 673 units in 2004. This decline was due primarily to rigs removed from service, due to long-term inactivity and cold-stacked status.

.Global, offshore mobile utilization rose to 85% in 2005, from 72% in 2004.

.Outside the US and Canada, utilization was 83% in 2005, with the Middle East showing the highest utilization rate for land rigs at 94%.


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A Shortage of Capacity!

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http://www.offshoresource.com/pdf/OS-Dec07.pdf[/url]

Deep Water discoveries,

503 new discoverys from 2004 to 2007

Rigs avalable for exploration and production:

Rigs Avalable

Jack Up..............Semis................Drill Ships


Supply.................397................165.......................38..........

Demand...............367 37.........

Utilization..............92%...............96%.....................97%........​

So as even you should be able to see there is no excess capasity to exploit the new finds around the world.

Plus another 52 finds in 2008[/CENTER]
 
Oil Projects Idle as Supply of Gear, Staff Runs Dry
Monday, September 11th, 2006
A global shortage of drilling equipment has stalled production in Colombia. Delays of more than a year are common.
Deep beneath the Caribbean Sea lies an oil field so promising that it could reverse this country’s six-year slide in petroleum production and ease its economic problems.
But no one can get to the crude. A global shortage […]

Posted in Company, Exploration, General News, Mining, Oil & Gas, Trade & Market
 
Really yet we have enough production for the speculators to buy up 850 milliom more barrels than last year?

Out of 28 Billion a year, thats 3% increase, oh wow that nothing!

Add up all the would reserves in conventional oil, that at most is 2.5 trillion of which we have consumed half already, and are consuming 1% every year, assuming we could suck ever last drop that would last us 50 more years if demand stays level and economies don't grown.
 
We swore, that peak oil is real, Mr. Senator:

"At the Judiciary Committee hearing, Democratic senators struggled to have the executives explain how oil prices had risen so high."

It's the peak oil, stupid! :)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/22/business/22oil.html?hp

Now tell me exactly how the Democrats in congress are going to lower prices with out increasing supply.

What good is it going to do to attack the Oil industry? Tax them, it is just added to the bottom line of the cost of doing business, and guess who pays that?

YOU DO...THE EXTRA COST OF THE TAXES>>>>ADDED TO THE PRICE WE PAY FOR THE FUEL....OR THE COMPANY GOES OUT OF BUSINESS>>>>>>AND WHAT DOES THAT GET US?????????????????

Now explain how we are going to make up a shortage of 2,474 drilling rigs, the oil is being found, we don't have the capacity to bring it on line.

As the sources I have posted show it is capacity, not peak oil that is the problem, we are at 50% of the drilling resources that we had in 1980;

(FORTUNE Magazine) – . Only about 700 drilling rigs are out exploring, compared with more than 4,500 in 1980.

In 1980 we had 4.500 oil rigs on line, that number had shrunk to 700 rigs by 1983, by 2005 we were at 2026 rigs available for drilling, that is a 50% decrease in rigs available for exploitation of discovered field.

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Oil Projects Idle as Supply of Gear, Staff Runs Dry
Monday, September 11th, 2006
A global shortage of drilling equipment has stalled production in Colombia. Delays of more than a year are common.
Deep beneath the Caribbean Sea lies an oil field so promising that it could reverse this country’s six-year slide in petroleum production and ease its economic problems.
But no one can get to the crude. A global shortage […]

Posted in Company, Exploration, General News, Mining, Oil & Gas, Trade & Market

Energy Tribune
Jul 27, 2007 ... Drillship Shortage Causing Delays at Jack Oil Field ... But tapping that oil will require a lot more drilling capacity. ...
http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm?aid=578

Cost of Offshore Drilling Rising as Fast as Oil Prices | Energy ...
Offshore Drilling Rig A supply shortage for classes of offshore rigs capable ... Oil and natural gas prices, combined with full capacity world wide in the ...
http://industry.bnet.com/energy/2008/05/08/cost-of-offshore-drilling-rising-as-fast-as-oil-prices/

Report for March 2006 Quarter
Drilling progress was hampered by a lack of drilling capacity – both drill rigs .... As mentioned elsewhere, shortage of drill rigs (a common industry wide ...
http://www.allegiance-mining.com.au...SXCaps-28.4.2006-AGM Quarterly March 2006.pdf

A Shortage of Drilling Rigs World Wide and Add to That a Shortage of Qualified People to Run Them.
 

My eyes! My Eyes hurt!!! :)

Politicans are idiots, they should be reading my posts, period...They could learn a lot...

Didn't my posts indicate that I was on the executives' side?Now, Bush should have started mitigation policies at least 5 years ago, when oil was still cheap. To see peak oil happening you don't need a harward education, just common sense. One such a guy is the CEO of SouthWest airline, probably the only profitable airline, because they bough a shitload of oil futures thus they are getting their gas for cheap....
 
By the way, the executives still deserved grilling but for a different reason. If somebody was AWARE of peak oil, that would have been them. They could have alarmed the president, although W as an oilman should know something about his industry. But again, acknowledging it wasn't in their best interest and they lied about until the bitter end, which is $135 per barrel and still rising.

The time to get ready for winter is not when you find your house surrounded by 6 feet snow but in the autumn. The mitigation against the effects of peak oil should have started 5 years ago or earlier. There was one president Carter, who actually tried to do something and he has been ridiculed since.

That's why the oil executives also deserve the blame....Now stop the spinning and quoting bullshit numbers without doing the actual thinking and number crunching and get ready for the winter....
 
By the way, the executives still deserved grilling but for a different reason. If somebody was AWARE of peak oil, that would have been them. They could have alarmed the president, although W as an oilman should know something about his industry. But again, acknowledging it wasn't in their best interest and they lied about until the bitter end, which is $135 per barrel and still rising.

The time to get ready for winter is not when you find your house surrounded by 6 feet snow but in the autumn. The mitigation against the effects of peak oil should have started 5 years ago or earlier. There was one president Carter, who actually tried to do something and he has been ridiculed since.

That's why the oil executives also deserve the blame....Now stop the spinning and quoting bullshit numbers without doing the actual thinking and number crunching and get ready for the winter....

Nice logical response.........

Now stop the spinning and quoting bullshit numbers without doing the actual thinking and number crunching and get ready for the winter

I it's you who need to stop spinning,.....the Numbers are not Bullshit,..........they are hard fact,.......and when you crunch them, they tell that it isn't a Peak Oil Problem,............it's a capacity problem,...........the capacity to explore,............the Capacity to drill,.......the Capacity to refine,..........that is the numbers plain and simple,...............the Numbers, Hard Numbers, Hard fact.

Not the Conventional Dogma of the left that the world is collapsing, that oil is collapsing.

Why does the left want this to happen so badly?

So they can step in and save the world? be the Heroes?

How?

By controlling every aspect of your life from when you travel, to how many kids you can have in your family, all in the name of saving the world.

Talk about a hero complex.

It was and is, the liberals and the extreme environmentalist, who have done nothing to allow the development of a sound energy policy, their answer to every thing is to stop exploration for oil, stop drilling for oil, stop refining that oil, stop building storage for that oil and refined product, no to Nuclear Energy, and what has happened?

Prices for petroleum products has spiraled out of control, because there is a shortage of capacity, if you don't explore, you don't find new field,........if you don't drill, you don't have product,...........you don't refine you don't have usable fuel to power the economy.

I have been ready for winter, I retired at age 55, but what I don't like is when some one parks a snow machine in my driveway and turns it on full blast, now how about you stop spinning and crunch some real numbers, and find out that its is congress who should be grilled,

NOT THE OIL EXECUTIVES,

WHY?

BECAUSE IT IS CONGRESS WHO CONTROL THE DRILL THROUGH THE LAWS THEY PASS.

IT IS CONGRESS WHO THROUGH THE LAWS THEY PASS, HAS STOPPED ANY BUILDING OF NUCLEAR GENERATION CAPABILITY.

IT IS CONGRESS WHO HAS FAILED TO DEVELOP A SUSTAINABLE ENERGY POLICY.
 
Lack of refining capacity is deliberate. There is no free market reason to mess with an advantageous situation. Democrats will lower gas prices by reducing demand. They will force ambitious fuel efficiency standards and increase investment in rail and mass transit projects. They will provide tax incentives to encourage investment in efficient appliances, home insulation, possibly solar power.
 
buffalo said:
Prices for petroleum products has spiraled out of control, because there is a shortage of capacity, if you don't explore, you don't find new field,........if you don't drill, you don't have product,...........you don't refine you don't have usable fuel to power the economy.
The US government does not control the building of refineries elsewhere and the exploration for oil around the world.

The price is going up everywhere, in dollars.
 
Nice logical response.........

You do realize I stopped reading your lengthy posts for lack of info value?

BECAUSE IT IS CONGRESS WHO CONTROL THE DRILL THROUGH THE LAWS THEY PASS.

And I guess oil executive couldn't have argued let's say 5 years ago, that: Look, you are going to be in deep shit in a few years UNLESS we can drill everywhere. (actually, even if we drill) And we are going to make money no matter what, but we won't be the scapegoat, because we warned you now!

I don't remember them saying this back in 2002, do you??? 5 years ago all what they said was that peak oil is myth and we have shitload of oil anough for 100s of years...
 
By the way I noticed your spincycle in the GW thread, first you republicans denied, it then denied it was manmade, now you argue it might be good after all.

You do the same with PO, first deny it, now you are saying, it is a capacity issue.

Guess what! Oil is a global product, so just because the US doesn't drill here or there, the rest of the world still should be able to produce sufficient amount to statisfy demand. Of course if there wasn't such a thing as peak oil. So your argument of Alaska and Florida coastline doesn't stand...Not to mention the amount it could produce...

But again, why an oilfriendly goverment with a Republican congress couldn't pass legislation about drilling in Alaska a few years back??? I agree we should drill there, fuck the caribou. Although as I mentioned earlier, it would only help a bit and wouldn't be the solution to the problem...
 
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