Perceptions

[Bowser]

This strikes me as somewhat egocentric.

The implication, for example, is that I am merely one part of your consciousness, encapsulated in you.

It is conceivable that you really think that I'm just another part of you, but I find it hard to believe that this is your true opinion. For starters, it seems to greatly underestimate the otherness of other people. In some ways, I'm a lot like you, no doubt, but in other ways I'm quite sure there are profound differences, at least some of which are not immediately accessible to you.

Consciousness within consciousness? What more in common do we need?

 

[sweetpea]

Consciousness within consciousness? What more in common do we need?

This sounds like it should go on your Self Talk thread. So, when someone finds you talking to yourself, you can reply in all honesty '' I'm talking to James R.''

 

[Bowser]

This sounds like it should go on your Self Talk thread. So, when someone finds you talking to yourself, you can reply in all honesty '' I'm talking to James R.''

As long as someone is listening.

 

[sweetpea]

As long as someone is listening.

Yes, whatever you have to tell yourself to reinforce your belief.

 

[river]

Hopefully J.R. is listening or rather reading , really

In post # 62 by sweetpea

 

[Bowser]

Yes, whatever you have to tell yourself to reinforce your belief.

It's the absence of self-talk that reinforces my beliefs. Unfortunately self-talk is habitual, having been practiced for years. I find the ride on the morning train to be the most tranquil (quiet). It is a meditation.

 

[Speakpigeon]

I don't " believe " in a physical Universe , I know it to absolutely exist .

You, you believe you know.
Me, I know I believe.
I also fail to see how I could possibly know that there is a material or a physical reality. Yes, I believe there must be something, but it's a fact that I don't know.
So, apparently, we're not the same kind of beings, you and me. You like to believe you know. I can't ignore that I believe.
EB

 

[Bowser]

You, you believe you know.
Me, I know I believe.
I also fail to see how I could possibly know that there is a material or a physical reality. Yes, I believe there must be something, but it's a fact that I don't know.
So, apparently, we're not the same kind of beings, you and me. You like to believe you know. I can't ignore that I believe.
EB

You know intuitively, without thinking, right?

 

[Bowser]

That's somewhat of a stretch. We are limited local spaces, each with a limited amount of objects inside us.

I would argue that your awareness can hold a huge amount of stuff. I pull in the city, the river, the sky and the sun plus everything else within the range of my perception every morning while riding the train. That's just little old me on a 45 minute ride.

Sorry for pulling this one out of the mix. I was reading the thread and thought it worth answering.

 

[Write4U]

I would argue that your awareness can hold a huge amount of stuff. I pull in the city, the river, the sky and the sun plus everything else within the range of my perception every morning while riding the train. That's just little old me on a 45 minute ride.

Sorry for pulling this one out of the mix. I was reading the thread and thought it worth answering.

It may appear that way and we do have some billions of neurons in our brains. A powerful computing system.

However, if you consider that at nano scale the amount of information becomes staggeringly large and we are only able to process so much information at a time.

Consider the speed and processing power of your computer and the screen resolution of your monitor. When enlarging a picture on your screen , how long does take for the pixels to become fuzzy and blocky? Nowhere near nano scale, right?

Optical and auditory illusions are testimony to our limited translating powers.
As Anil Seth observes; what we experientially see is but an approximation of reality and we create reality as much from the inside out as from the outside in.

 

[Bowser]

However, if you consider that at nano scale the amount of information becomes staggeringly large and we are only able to process so much information at a time.

My processor does it all on its own. I don't seem to be doing anything other than being attentive.

 

[Write4U]

My processor does it all on its own. I don't seem to be doing anything other than being attentive.

Basically yes.
I like Anil Seth's clear explanation of the process and the limitations imposed by the processing itself.

Right now, billions of neurons in your brain are working together to generate a conscious experience -- and not just any conscious experience, your experience of the world around you and of yourself within it.

How does this happen? According to neuroscientist Anil Seth, we're all hallucinating all the time; when we agree about our hallucinations, we call it "reality." Join Seth for a delightfully disorienting talk that may leave you questioning the very nature of your existence.

https://www.ted.com/talks/anil_seth_how_your_brain_hallucinates_your_conscious_reality