I want a discussion, I just want it to be rational and informed. I want you to provide justification beyond "I asked aliens". I want you to accept when you make demonstrable errors, either of logic or about experimentally observed facts. I want you to provide a quantitative model with a clear derivation from stated postulates/assumptions.
You want me to give you a string theory mathematical model, which is completely unnecessary.
I want you to do something other than assert things you think you get from some direct line to your god.
You are perpetuating a bogus argument from a slanted point of view.
I want you to accept that human common sense is not the be all and end all of scientific procedure.
I had professors of physics who told me to look at the mathematics to see if it makes sense. If the mathematics is telling you that you can create anti-photons that carry information into the past, then clearly there is something wrong with the math.
Let me go over this again. Gravitational redshift is when each photon frequency shifts as it traverses the radii of a gravitating object like a planet, star, neutron star or black hole. It should make sense that the photon will gain energy (blue shift) as it falls along the radii. If it is escaping the gravitating object, along the radii, it has to lose energy. Since the energy of a photon is E = hf, a loss of energy means that it loses frequency as well.
Gravitational time dilation tells you that the progression of time slows down as a photon falls along the radii of a black hole. Why? Besides the fact that this is calculated to be so by general relativity, the other reason you have to take some time to think about. I will try to set up the thought experiment. You can't build a tower on a neutron star or a black hole because gravity forces would crush the tower. But if you could, you could set up a function generator/amplifier/antenna at the top of the tower. The antenna would direct waves from the frequency generator down to the bottom of the tower/base of the tower. The waves would effectively travel (fall) along the radii to the base. At the base, there is an antenna that detects the incoming waves. The waves are counted by a frequency counter.
I can program the function generator to emit 100MHz for 1 microsecond. With high confidence, I can expect to emit 100 cycles of electromagnetic radiation which travels down to the base, where the frequency counter is. If nothing deflects or blocks the 100 cycles, then my frequency counter at the base should measure 100 cycles as well. Nothing odd so far.
Here is where it gets weird. A rock that falls in an acceleration field is expected to accelerate and increase its velocity and kinetic energy, as if it was obtaining energy from the gravity field. It is a surprise to many people that photons also increase their energy as they fall in an acceleration field; there are still many people who don't know that gravity acts on light as well as matter. Gravitational time dilation is the surprising truth that gravity acts on light as well as matter. Every photon emitted from the top of the tower is going to gain energy as it falls to the base. But a photon's energy is nothing more than E=hf. So it wouldn't be too surprising that 100 cycles of 100MHz radiation, emitted from the top, could be received as 100 cycles of 200MHz radiation. Would it? From that top to the bottom, yes, you get more energy at the base. But you don't get more photons. You also don't get more waves; you only get the 100 waves that you emitted. But those 100 waves have more energy now because gravity acts on photons (electromagnet radiation). Gravitational time dilation is a stunning shocker that surprises us.
In the 1979 movie,
Black Hole, by Disney, there was nothing about gravitational time dilation. A black hole was just this whirl pool looking thing that swallowed everything in real time. I heard it from Hawkins that time slows down as you approach the event horizon. There are some people who think that time stops at the event horizon. So what is the big deal about time slowing down? When I thought about it, it seemed like nature was disavowing the idea that matter and light gain energy as it falls into the gravity well of a black hole. Why? Because if 100 cycles can be detected at the base of the tower as 200MHz, then what we really have is $$\Theta_{top}= \Theta_{bottom}=f_{top}\Delta t_{top}=f_{bottom}\Delta t_{bottom}$$.
Summary: the frequency detected at the base is double because falling objects acquire more energy as they fall; kinetic energy of matter increases as it falls. But time slows down in such a way that $$\frac{\Delta t_{bottom}}{\Delta t_{top}} = \frac{f_{top}}{f_{bottom}}$$. I have what looks like gravitational time dilation and gravitational redshift in the same equation. But why would nature do that? The only reason I can think of is that gravity conserves energy, of the photon, by slowing time down. It does this in such a way that the number of cycles of EM radiation is the same (emitted at the top and detected at the bottom).
This is what gave me the idea that nature was doing something peculiar with EM radiation "cycles", time dilation and frequency shifting. This is what gave me the idea that the acceleration of gravity (across some distance) is coupled to frequency shift of EM waves. So I had the idea that it might work the other way (with some efficiency <1.0).
If $$g=2.9 trillion$$ g's of g-force, across a distance of 300 meters could induce a frequency shift from f to 2f, then perhaps it will work in reverse as some very tiny efficiency. By efficiency, I mean that a frequency shift from f to 2f, across 300 meters, might be able to induce a very small efficiency of 10^{-12}*g g's of g-force. Better technique could improve efficiency.
If you still don't understand, try to remember that it is a conceptual argument, not a mathematical argument. As a metaphor, the leader of a nation can easily overcome (kill) one enemy soldier; however, under very special circumstances, one enemy soldier can defeat the leader of a nation. It comes down to the details of the special circumstances.
