Heflores - it seems we are picking on you
I respect your personal beliefs, it is not my intention to confuse or 'convert' you. But since you believe in God, there has to be certain facts (thank you, atheists... I know...) that we can agree on, although we both admit that we have theories and beliefs that are being adjusted all the time. God does not change with our understanding, do you agree? God stays the same, whatever we think we know about Him.
Since I didn't create you, and have no influence over you other than what you permit, I cannot even begin to assume to play god over you, judge or condemn you. And I don't want to either.
Now that we got that straight. To the point:
Here's my PERSONAL opinion, and it might be wrong. My prespective of god is quite different than me. I view my creator as an unknown entity to me, somewhat much much higher than me in all aspects...Afterall, he's my creator so he must be totally above my logic, interpretations, flesh, priest, mother, father, you, Cris, Cross, ect. Since I very strongly believe that my creator is so higher than I'm I refuse relentessly with the last breath of my body...to attribute anything to him or to confine his glory within my human mind that's full of shit and bugs.....
This 'unknown entity' is what Paul preaches to the people of Epheses. God will always be more than us, and we will always seek Him. Everything we say about God are human terms and words for something that has far greater meaning than we can hope to describe.
If I allow myself to believe that he's within me, then I have contaminated his glory with my stupidity and often lack of logic. He must remain pure, very pure, and the only way he may stay pure in my mind is for me to submit to the idea that the creator knows all, humans do not know shit...In a way, I'm trying to submit to my creator in the most powerfull way possible, not other's way. [/quote]
God has created you, therefore He must know that you exist. The worst you can do is deny this. If God created you in the first place, and you are always known to Him - aren't you always walking on holy ground? 'Here' is everywhere you can reach. For God, 'here' is therefore everywhere, because He can reach everywhere. You are always in His presence.
Do you think God depends on your distance, to be holy? You are right: for us to be in God's presence, we must be holy - and we cannot be, we can never never be pure enough. The key is love. If God has to keep His distance, how can we love Him, and what does it help He says He love us but cannot reach us? If this cannot happen, how are we to come into His presence even after death? Death is the result of sin, not the clearing of sin.
This is where God sent His son as a sacrifice. As Paul said:
Acts 17:23
For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO AN UNKNOWN GOD. Now what you worship as something unknown I am going to proclaim to you.
God can show His love by making it possible for us to know Him. I won't go any further right now. Please tell me what your thought and objections are up until this point.