Yes I often just ignore them.
Do you want us to ignore you?
I added the rev up comment because I wanted to sooth feelings rather than inflame them and hopefully have any one who reads this behave better when they lose ... for either side.
Bullshit.
Your opening salvo in this thread was pure flame and troll and then you tried to suggest that it was all made up and then you basically went forward and repeated the same right wing rubbish again as your argument in this thread.
You aren't here to soothe feelings. You are here to flame.
The not so funny part of your schtick is that you think it is clever and original. It isn't.
I presume the fact you ask what alternatives should be presented gives some acceptance to the approach but rather than me listing alternatives they should come from the folk involved.
You said:
"Listen to the folk that you put down as idiots and present to them alternatives that gives recognition to who they are and the matters they feel go unaddressed by polititians..."
I am asking you what alternatives do you think could be presented to voters who have thus far voted against access to healthcare, education funding, tax cuts, etc?
I do want you to list them. I would not have asked you otherwise.
Don't be lazy now. You stirred this shit, now you have to own it. So what alternatives are there for those voters who went out of their way to vote against their own best interests in the last election because they do not want minorities to have equal access?
Part of the us and them approach is that the other sides interests are not considered.
We are talking about "the other side" who voted against access to healthcare, education funding, tax cuts, because of their angst that minorities would also have access to it.
So, you want to talk about interests and "us and them", how about you address the giant elephant in the room. Do you think the Democrats should be pandering to the racist perversion in American society to garner their votes? Should Democrats give these voters "alternatives" that would pander to their hatred and bigotry by creating an even bigger "us and them" divide between those white voters and minorities?
I am in favour of free health and free education not only because that is a fair approach but such an approach you could think will produces healthier, happier and more productive citizens...
That's nice.
Poor white voters who voted for Trump in droves and are the open mouthed MAGA hat wearing morons will vote for him again in this election because he is taking away any chance of free healthcare and free education. And as I provided you in the previous post, their reasons stem from their anger that minorities would also have access to healthcare and education.. So they vote against what would benefit themselves directly, so long as the black family living next door, does not get to access it.
So what alternatives do you think exists for these voters?
I have no doubt that health insurance is inefficient and probably sees care being determined by what the policy covers.... and clearly the us and them attitude shines brightest in these areas and I find that most sad and indeed repulsive.
The ridiculous irony of your posts in this thread is that you completely disregard the voters you are whining are not being presented alternatives and their "us vs them" attitude.. The Democrats present equal access to healthcare. And you don't think those voters are being presented with alternatives?
You did it..you actually said "Trump won"... the point is it was clear, at least to me, the game he was playing ..the rallies gave it away a little...and yet the professional politicians were incapable of countering such a base approach...I don't respect Trump for his tactic but I can not fathom why Hilary with all her experience could not beat such a simple tactic...The fault lays with those who were unable to beat a non professional politician..in my view...not to accept that is to ignore the basic reality of why we lost.
Well Trump was elected by electors in the last election, despite gathering less votes. My quibble and disgust with the American electoral system aside, Trump is currently president.
Are you suggesting that Democrats should simply have enabled him to carry out whatever the hell he wanted to do because their job was to now facilitate his craziness and racism in policy making? I'm curious? When he gutted access to healthcare, should Democrats have aided him in doing so? Because "he won"?
Funny ...when I said the problem is everywhere I would have thought that could be taken to mean...everywhere...I suppose you would like to believe I was leaving Trump out of it for your reasons but perhaps realise I used the word everywhere meaning...everywhere.
You say everywhere, but you are whining about a ripped up speech and Democrats.
Come on yourself ... I say again the problem is us and them..do you have any intelligent comment to say why that is not so.
Your identification of the problem is on par with a beauty pageant contestant citing "world peace" as their dream for the world.
There is nothing that justifies the diminishment of that occassion and no matter what bullshit may be going on the image, the custom and ceremony is untouchable...this is most important to any society and not to hold such values means mere opinion can undermine any public office or ceremony.
I'm sorry..
You are more concerned with the visual than with the substance of the fact that he nuked access to healthcare, gave a speech steeped in lies and bigotry, awarded a medal to one of America's most racist and misogynistic radio hosts? I note you aren't complaining that Trump diminished "that occasion" when he refused to shake her hand when he walked into the chamber to give that horrendous speech to begin with, huh?
