I think you mean Origin, who is a good source for help if you ever decide to enroll in a class in science.
I think I gave you a couple of shots at pulling your head out of your tail before I crossed that bridge. In any case, don't take it to heart. We're all wearing big boys and girls pants here. The idea is to converse freely, not to get bogged down in personalities.
Yeah I suspect you're a fundie. Am I close?
No more than you riding roughshod over all of science and academia. What's up with that? I always suspect it's either a religious gripe or something like being expelled from school. Getting warmer?
How so? Origin and I both enjoy intelligent discussion. I guess you'd have to expand on what you mean.
I'm quite familiar with Origin so presumably this means ignorance of you. But how so? You started taking pot shots at the get-go. I think that paints a very vivid picture of you. If you'd like to Photoshop that picture, feel free. How about starting by cluing us in about how you got that big chip on your shoulder.
presumption of authority;
There's not much more than a high school level of education needed to address the level of authority here. I mean you set the bar pretty low!
Was your OP a joke? I took it to you were riding into town with guns blazing. I reached for my 12 gauge and loaded it with some essential facts. Seems like it blew you right off your saddle.
Not to put words in Origin's mouth, but I think it’s safe to say we both are turned off by anti-science pot-shotters. It's not a hatred of the person but of the deed . . . and the
school of thought . . . wait they didn't go to school . . . let's just say 'the mentality' that derives pleasure by disparaging the more noble side of human nature -- such as the desire to develop oneself through academic studies. And yes it's safe to say that we both despise anything that glorifies ignorance. I guess you could say knowledge abhors a vacuum. And the floor of my freshman crash pad.
These you both must think you're entitled to because you're both self-appointed "high priests" of a cult you presume your own- education.
There's nothing to presume once you've passed the exams and collected the diplomas. After that it's off to the races. I can't say for sure but I surmise that Origin has done well for himself, and I'm not complaining. . .but what of it? The allusion to 'high priest' sounds very Fundamentalist. I notice you haven't answered the mail on that, so I'll assume that's your real motivation. The ability to land some decent position or win contracts after years of cracking the books is far from a priesthood. It's very grassroots. You should try it sometime. It will cure you of all your superstitions.
If you were kinder because your professions (education?) made you happier, I would think you would be more persuasive.
Not sure what that's supposed to mean. You can't be persuaded because you are locked into some prison you've built around yourself and as far as you're concerned you can't get out. But really you can. Just drop the act and get real. Surely there is some day you can remember when you were in a classroom and it absolutely blew your mind. So when did you brick all of that--and why?
But you're both junkyard dogs.
Hah. You've just run out of insults. That's pretty lame. But mild, so I'll fade that.
This tells me not that you're right but that you both should retire and play some golf or go to a beach.
I assure you, whenever I'm messing around at Sci, I'm not working. Sorry, golf is way too slow for me. I'm a ways from the beach or I'd take you up on that. Maybe the Jacuz. Ah, yeah—thass more like it. Now what? You going to explain your gripe or just leave it hanging in the air?
When I read what you science nazis scream at people, I can see why they don't want to go to school.
No doubt the inability to be self-critical makes it harder to take critical advice from teachers. I suppose O & I are reminding you of hard times in that dept. Sorry, but I suppose we each make the beds we sleep in. May I suggest you come to a board (anywhere not just here) with a sincere desire to improve yourself and start asking for some advice. That or seek out ex-teachers, classmates, friends or family. Hell, go see a counselor. Find out how to get back in the game, because right now I think you're probably not doing so well. You sound like you're in bad shape, anyway.
Debating with you two is like Dorothy asking Oz not to douse her with wrath.
But wasn't it worth it? No more
crowing about the problem. Besides, you haven't offered any debate. You're just grousing.
That you should behave this way while safely behind screens also reminds me of him.
Again: you opened with the salvos. What did you expect? Certainly not to be carried in on a featherbed like the
Queen of Sheba.
Someday, I'm sure, a little dog will pull aside your mantles of respectability to show the even smaller gnomes behind.
Hah! When you get over whatever is bugging you you'll discover that there is no mantle; you lose it when you grow some self-respect.
I know if either of you were in front of me we'd do more than talk-
If you, me and Origin were in a bar we'd do no more than show you some formulas and suggest how to get your life on track. He could probably give you all the steps to the fermentation process for whatever you're drinking.
but not to worry, I'm off to greener pastures, even if in the Sahara!
Whatever you do, stay focused on developing yourself. Remember, it's never too late to go back to school.