Values, by their very nature, are articulations of faith.
Show that there is *religiously* motivated violence
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I realize you don't understand the difference between faith and an informed opinion, so I'll just let it go.
Its simply an imagination to think that one can receive an opinion and accept is as authoritative without faith
But it can be informed by knowledge of reality, which means that it's not faith. This is also an equivocation fallacy, since faith in a religious context means something different than mere trust.
It becomes a double bind when reality itself is defined by the said authority ... and even then, any definition of reality requires (positive) assumptions
The only difference is the subject.
IOW faith in a transcendent universe and faith in a reductionist universe are different subjects but are identical in that the assumptions rest outside the capacity of the seer (since you equate "the senses" with "evidence")
Scientists do not have faith in a reductionist universe.
Protesters calling for religious tolerance attacked with stones, threatened with death
The protesters, calling themselves ‘Silent Solidarity’, had earlier issued a press release stating that their intention was to “make the Maldives and the international community aware of the rising religious intolerance in the Maldives, and to condemn the Constitutionally endorsed suppression of religious freedom. We also denounce the increasing use being made of Islam as a tool of political power.”
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Yes, thank you for pointing out the danger of religion, it makes people vulnerable to leaders that seek to exploit their credulousness.
Damn you, running dog! That is nationalist violence. How dare you undermine our righteous fury.
If they keep failing at school, keep getting drunk etc. - then what do you do?
Ask them, nicely, to, pretty please, get themselves together?
Fearsome.
Around a fearsome person, others are afraid or fearful.
Perhaps Spidergoat doesn't have experience with training anyone, beyond cats.
Domestic cats are indeed, generally, aversive to any use of force, and any use of force against a cat will tend to result in the cat becoming withdrawn, fearful, or leave. Punishing the cat does not make it refrain from an undesired behavior.
Which is why in order to get a cat to refrain from doing something you don't want it to do, you have to use creative and goodwilled alternatives, such as distractions.
This is just how cats are. But then to begin with, people have cats in order to dominate the house and to look pretty, not to do as told or to be able to succeed in life on their own.
Dogs and children do not have the role of cats. Dogs are expected to do as told, and children are expected to grow up and be able to take care of themselves.
But this double bind always applies, also in religious philosophy!
There is a lot more to this, but I can't put it into a brief passage right now.
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The difference is that I don't call upon it to render faith and values mutually exclusive
"Religious delusion" or "religious anger" are contradictions in terms. So is "religious violence."