lightgigantic said:
Lord Insane
Call it a weakness of character but rather than accepting bold claims I prefer to examine the premises behind them ....
Interesting - however even in the case of the tooth fairy and santa claus you find that the "evidence" is still there - in other words someone puts the present under the christmas tree or the coin under the pillow - in these instances you can say "look it was only your parents doing this - here is the evidence" - to hold a tight analogy between religion and santa claus aetc you would have to reveal what all these great philosophers and religious scholars were beholding in the name of god - at the very least it would require you to study a variety of religions - something I am sure you have not and will not do .... thus it still seems we are left with your bold statements
would you prefer I watch MTV?
these are all tentative claims that can be swung any way - like for instance I can say that it is you who has fallen victim to fantastic claims that state there is no god and it is you who are stabilized on a false level of security offerred by a godless world view.
coming from a guy who names himself Lord Insane
Let´s see - what is LG saying here, let me analyze - first of all you state it is only "bold statements " - then LG says, I do not know anything about religion and should listen to great philosophers and religious scholars - and LG also makes fun of my name here on Sciforums : Lord Insane ......
Allright , LG is trying to discredit me - excellent - that is the last thing you can do , if you do not have any real arguments
What else - WOW - LG is actually sure of something : LG is sure that I have never studied a variety of religions and never will do so !!!
Unfortunately you are wrong (as usual) !!!!!!!!!!
Just for your information LG :
My name here is actually very well chosen , beeing a MD and now professor
of psychiatry I first thought of the name : Master of Insanity - but since
a long life has convinced me about the blessings of secularism - I choose
the name Lord Insane = god, as I see him ...... as a kind of joke on the deists ....
Just like Paraclete here on Sciforums choose his name - Paraclete works as a
psychiatrist here at my hospital - I am his senior - and he told me of this funny chatroom so I joined .....
I have now spend 26 years studying religion - I have more than 3 meters of books about religion on my bookshelves at home - and even more at the hospital ... for the last 4 years I have studied the concept of Jesus in other religions - especially in islam - which also accept Jesus as a prophet ....
I have bhagavad gita, the quran, hadiths, the bible and books about most other religions including even special books of rare and obsolete religions,
including the cargo cult you mentioned in another post - and right now I am reading about the religion of small and occult sects here in the west ......
Why do I study that , beeing secular myself - the answer is simple :
It is my job to decide who is insane or not !!!!!
I am even paid very,very,very good money for doing that !!!!
There is NO doubt that religious people are delusional - but it is a delusion that is accepted by society and the religious people that suffers from that delusion , are not in mental agony - actually often comforted by it -
so there is no need to treat them for their delusion !!!!!!!!!!
It has not always been so - in the Soviet Union for a while , the communist government choose to look at religion as a mental disease and locked up religious people in closed psychiatric departments !!!!!!!!
Part of my job is to know - when people are coming here as mental patients - whether their delusion are induced by their religion or sect that they belong to or not !!!!!
If their delusion is induced by religion I choose NOT to treat them - delusion induced by brainwashing ( or perhaps god gene) !!!!
If not I have to treat them , sometimes against their will !!!!!
So I HAVE to know about religions !!!!!!!!!!!
So my dear LG - what are your qualifications to be an expert in this topic !!
After reading your posts I see, that you mostly quotes famous people , discredit your opponents , uses nice words like ontology and epistomology - and sometimes says it is only a battle of will of LG and the opponent :
I say yes - you say no - I say yes - you say no ....... and everybody who do not agree with you have only " bold statements "
Do you really think anybody will take you serious when you do this ???????
Try to take a look into yourself for once !!!!!!
Anyway take care LG .....