Spanking Lowers IQ Points

Orleander said:
are you freakin kidding me?!!! This thread is spanked children having lower IQs. About how some parents assault their toddlers and older children and choose to call it 'spanking' or 'swatting'. AGGRESSIVE IMPULSES should have no place in child rearing. :mad:
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So, in your vocabulary spanking equals with assault? By your way of seeing things that means every slap, every rougher physical contact with kids equals with assault. Where is your proof that those parents aren't just spanking, or swatting them?
If that were made into law, then this would mean that the prisons and courts would be overrun with such causalities even more than usually.

Where do you draw the line? What's next? Nudging someone will equal with attempted murder, yes?
 
Orleander said:
It would land them in jail if they did it to someone elses child. Why is it ok to do it to their own?
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Okay, so you are trying to support a legislation that would have the cops breaking into people's homes and holding guns to their heads, and you think that's just an expression of opinion, there. Orleander, you really are shallow.
 
Alien Cockroach said:
Okay, so you are trying to support a legislation that would have the cops breaking into people's homes and holding guns to their heads, and you think that's just an expression of opinion, there. Orleander, you really are shallow.
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LMFAO!!!! I'm shallow because I think its wrong to assault people? I consider children to be people.
silly roach
 
Alien Cockroach said:
Bashing people's religious beliefs and demeaning their character is bullying, Orleander.
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But, beating children is okay. We wouldn't want to hurt the feelings of deluded theists, but go ahead and smack your kids. Twisted, pal. :bugeye:
 
Orleander said:
yes.
It would land them in jail if they did it to someone elses child. Why is it ok to do it to their own?
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Because some people who love to blow things out of proportion and consider any form of a little rougher physical contact as assault complained about it, and with constant whining managed to get it ratified, and added to the big fat book of laws.

It's just the same with abortion. You get sent to jail for double murder if you kill a pregnant woman, but that same woman doesn't get to go to jail if she would abort that very same fetus.
Why was the former law implemented? Because of people who are against abortion, and want to push their way of life down everybody else's throat. But sadly, contrarily to their belief the former didn't help to make abortion completely illegal, at least not to my knowledge. Yeah, but that's how this world rolls.
 
PsychoTropicPuppy said:
Because some people who love to blow things out of proportion and consider any form of a little rougher physical contact as assault complained about it, and with constant whining managed to get it ratified, and added to the big fat book of laws.....
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I don't think whining makes laws. :shrug:
 
Orleander said:
I'm shallow because I think its wrong to assault people? I consider children to be people.
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You are shallow because you can't tell the difference between assault on a minor and a controversial but traditional technique used in child-rearing, implemented by a perfectly rational adult. Yes, that makes you shallow.

You are shallow because you think that (Q), here, is your Huckleberry, entirely because (Q)'s views on corporal punishment are superficially similar to your own. Do you even understand what aggravated my reaction to this poster? You haven't even thought about it, therefore you are shallow.
 
I can't understand how someone can actually put beating on the same level as spanking. There are different levels of physical aggression. Beating is not spanking. If you beat a child, then those are serious inflictions which could be lethal. If you spank a child, it will forget it after 10 minutes, and move on.
But obviously, you've never witnessed either of the two, and therefore have no clue about the differences.
 
(Q) said:
But, beating children is okay. We wouldn't want to hurt the feelings of deluded theists, but go ahead and smack your kids. Twisted, pal. :bugeye:
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Unfortunately, we live in the real world, here, where a large chunk of the population adheres to an unfortunate misinterpretation of Proverbs 13:24. Maybe it's not exactly good for the children's health, but it is not exactly correct to classify the behavior as abuse. This is potentially a politically volatile issue, and resolving it is not as simple or clear-cut as sending in the cops to deal with it.

Furthermore, parents who spank their children are a relatively small problem compared with arrogant people like you who can't keep their meddling fingers out of other people's private lives.

People like you were the reason that gay people used to be hauled off to prison for buggery. There is something wrong with your mind that makes it impossible for you to keep your meddling fingers out of other people's private lives.

The most effective investment of our time, efforts, and money would be education, education, education. You know what education is, don't you? It's that thing you missed out on when you dropped out of high-school.
 
PsychoTropicPuppy said:
...But obviously, you've never witnessed either of the two, and therefore have no clue about the differences.
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Generations of my family have lived it. I don't assault my children. I don't use a weapon on my children.

Did your parents use weapons? Mine did. Apparently a hand doesn't hurt enough. :shrug:
 
Alien Cockroach said:
...Furthermore, parents who spank their children are a relatively small problem compared with arrogant people like you who can't keep their meddling fingers out of other people's private lives.....
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Children are not property to assault as a parent sees fit because its a private matter.
 
Orleander said:
Generations of my family have lived it. I don't assault my children. I don't use a weapon on my children.

Did your parents use weapons? Mine did. Apparently a hand doesn't hurt enough. :shrug:
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Actually, the reason that dog trainers recommend using a rolled-up newspaper to punish a misbehaving animal is the fact that it has a lower impact, supposedly, on the animal's relationship with its handler. They started recommending this after they observed that animals flinch away from their owners' hands after being beaten with them, but they did not react this way if a rolled-up newspaper was used instead of a bare hand. The object is to reduce the stress experienced by the animal.
 
Orleander said:
Generations of my family have lived it. I don't assault my children. I don't use a weapon on my children.

Did your parents use weapons? Mine did. Apparently a hand doesn't hurt enough. :shrug:
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But that's a whole different level, Orleander. That's not spanking you're speaking of. Though it probably depends on the strength being applied into the usage of the weapon.

Yes, I think I've already mentioned that somewhere in this thread.
 
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