LOL, I am still awaiting an honest rational fact based argument from you.
I'm still waiting for the proof that you could actually recognise fact-based arguments. Or grammar.
LOL, I am still awaiting an honest rational fact based argument from you.
I'm still waiting for the proof that you could actually recognise fact-based arguments. Or grammar.
I'm still waiting for the proof that you could actually recognise fact-based arguments. Or grammar.
Thanks for the responses. The focus of this thread however has to do determining any possible deception on the part of the mainstream media, false flags, and terrorist groups possibly being trained and supplied chemical weapons by the U.S. government, NATO (same as), as well as the U.K. and France. Conspiracy.
I appreciate the emotions, but I really would like for the thread to stay focused on what the globalist powers are up to, while the mainstream media continues to distract the public with all of it's daily psychological operations.
joepistole:
"If the terrorist opposition is responsible for the WND attacks as you claim, why is it none of Assad's troops were affected by the gas? Probably because they were issued gas masks before the attack. One of the reasons militaries stopped using gas in WWI was because when they gassed the enemy, they also gassed themselves."
I am not making any claims here, sir/madam. However, I did read (or heard) somewhere several days ago that an admission was made from a "Syrian Rebel" that the chemical attack was actually an accident that occured in a tunnel where the gas was being stored by the so-called rebels.
I seem to recall that all of the people affected/killed by the gas were sleeping or hiding underground in the tunnels to avoid bombs and gunfire on the surface. Some speculation had been done earlier on why it seemed that no one above ground had been affected by the chemicals. One early theory, that the gas was heavier and traveled along the ground into ditches and tunnels, was ruled out by some experts. I've lost the link/source to it, but it's out there somewhere . . .
The reason that Assad's soldiers were not gassed was because they were not in the area, I presume. I seem to recall that there were a couple of government rescue people (or maybe soldiers) who went into the tunnels looking for survivors afterward. They were affected very strongly by the residual gas in one area of a tunnel and did have to go to a hospital for medical treatment with the other survivors. This is the sort of information that I am hoping that some might want to help me to look into and verify, if possible.
joepistole:
In regards to whether or not the "Syrian Rebels" are primarily Al Qaeda mercenaries of the New World Order, here's a link that I quickly came across while I was looking at another story:
"NATO wages a covert war against the Syrian government: Analyst"
http://web.archive.org/web/20120726...52768/nato-involved-in-covert-war-with-syria/
IS THAT THE BEST YOU CAN DO?
Instead of making stuff up
and acting like an immature juvenile, I suggest you touch base with reality every once in a while and work on that maturity thingy. If you work real hard on it you might be capable of engaging in an adult conversation one day.
I also suggest you take your meds...that neurosis thing is showing again.
Well, joe, when you start down this kind of road you invite those very responses. "Ah'm still a-waitin' on you to perduce some logic-like fact-based argumentins!" is going to earn you deliberate frustration from me. It's no secret we don't like each other - I find your glassy-eyed Democratic adherence more than a little terrifying, and I hope there aren't too many like you - but it's not acceptable to repeat, ad nauseum that you can find no logic in your opponent's commentary just because you don't happen to like his arguments (c.f. "I do not see the signal"; Nelson, not that you are any Nelson). If you had been able to demonstrate a fallacy, you might have a stool to perch on. But this endless hawking back to some illusionary pre-conclusion of my character will get you nowhere, and my responses have reduced you to impotent text-shouting and keyboard-beating. Sorry about that, but fair is as fair does. Which I've never done. :shrug:
Oooh. That was a mature perspective. Well shown up. I shall take notes.
You still haven't demonstrated you know what neurosis is. Google broken?
I'm going to state again that by just throwing some rockets at this problem will not solve this CIVIL WAR. Whoever takes control of Syria , if that does happen, they won't like the West just like now so what will we accomplish by doing so? It is a no win situation for America.
I don't believe that. If we truly help and not just make futile gestures, they will respect us.I'm going to state again that by just throwing some rockets at this problem will not solve this CIVIL WAR. Whoever takes control of Syria , if that does happen, they won't like the West just like now so what will we accomplish by doing so? It is a no win situation for America.
LOL infowars!...It has been many years since I conversed with James R., but I know that he is a fair man and probably would see your actions as malicious trolling too. Please remove your troll posts and go over to Free Thoughts or perhaps the Cesspool.
Thanks . . .[/i]
You should be sorry, you aren't a moderator. If you have a problem with our posts, you should contact one. I wasn't trolling, that was questioning your sources. I'm also sorry that a conspiracy theory "enthusiast" seems to mean someone who is less diligent about the quality of information they believe. No doubt there are real conspiracies going on, but you undermine your own credibility when you do that. No wonder people call you wackos.Notice:
I am sorry about this . . .
So what? It would be about time we confront Iran. Who cares if the rebels were responsible for the gas release. It just means that Assad's chemical weapons supply is not secure, all the more reason to invade, which we won't, because everyone got all anti-war after Iraq. But we should. We should be bombing Iran's nuclear enrichment facilities too. Let's get this over with!Since neither Iran nor Syria have nuclear weapons, this could only be interpreted as a direct threat from Russia, and yet these psychopaths running the U.S. and NATO are pushing forward. This is not going to be a replay of Afghanistan. This is not going to be a replay of Iraq. This is the beginning of something much, much bigger!
references to 2 movies:
• "The Road To World War Three"
• "World War 3 Has Already begun"
Thanks again . . .
In my previous post, I respectfully asked for these trolling posts to be removed voluntarily by those who have been posting them. I am sorry, but I again respectfully ask the following members to remove their postings at their next logins
Click On The Link For a Larger Picture:
http://web.archive.org/liveweb/http.../2013/08/yahoo-news-syria-chemical-attack.png
Here is the link to the incredible story reported by Yahoo! News way back on January 30, 2013:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/us-backed-plan-launch-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-045648224.html
Archived backup Here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20130131...h-chemical-weapon-attack-syria-045648224.html
US 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria, blame it on Assad govt': Report
By ANI | ANI – Wed 30 Jan, 2013
London, Jan 30 (ANI): The Obama administration gave green signal to a chemical weapons attack plan in Syria that could be blamed on President Bashar al Assad's regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country, leaked documents have shown.
A new report, that contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence, showed a scheme 'approved by Washington'.
As per the scheme 'Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons,' the Daily Mail reports.
Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people.
According to Infowars.com, the December 25 email was sent from Britam's Business Development Director David Goulding to company founder Philip Doughty.
The emails were released by a Malaysian hacker who also obtained senior executives resumes and copies of passports via an unprotected company server, according to Cyber War News.
According to the paper, the U.S. State Department has declined to comment on the matter. (ANI)
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p.s. I do not wish to be nasty about this, but since 99% of the posts made here on my thread have been extreme trolling, I am now asking that those of you who have been doing this to please stop posting here. I would also very much appreciate it you would remove those posts as well. It has been many years since I conversed with James R., but I know that he is a fair man and probably would see your actions as malicious trolling too. Please remove your troll posts and go over to Free Thoughts or perhaps the Cesspool.
Thanks . . .
LOL, refusing to acknowledge reality doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. It doesn’t make your unpleasant realities any less real. And there is ample evidence, go back and reread the posts. But then it does require a bit of knowledge and intellectual ability to recognize fallacies and to recognized neurotic patterns of behaviors. Perhaps you are lacking that knowledge and ability. But you should be able to easily verify your many factual errors with a few Google searches.
The anonymous opinion piece you offered alleging US involvement in a WMD attack in Syria makes some big allegations but offered no evidence and no proofs to support its allegations. If you want people to believe those audacious allegations then you need to have convincing evidence. And you offer no evidence much less convincing evidence. Just repeating unsupported allegations does not make them true.
Another fallacious analogy. Assad is not Hitler. Assad is in no danger of becoming Hitler. This comparison is beneath you.
As for being our brother's keeper, why aren't you advocating for the invasions of Iran, or North Korea, or China, or anywhere else there exists gross human rights violations?
You've arbitrarily decided that using gas weapons is the line? Why?
So then you want to intervene because of a political decision made a century ago. That's as silly and vapid a reason I've ever heard. Might as well intervene because they don't line their troops up correctly.
There is no difference in kind, just one of degree. A person who murders an innocent is just as evil as one who kills more than one,
I certainly hope you don't believe that. For one, it isn't true that the man who kills his wife in a fit of anger could in no way be compared to Ted Bundy, who killed for pleasure. There are too many motivations for murder to say that all killers are equal. That simply doesn't wash. Secondly, equating mass murderers to anyone else does a disservice to the victims of those crimes. I don't want to hear that George Zimmerman is the moral equivalent of Anders Breivik. That's just not true.
The Germans tried to stop him. They underestimated his willingness to break laws in his power-grab. He had many supporters, of course, but to say all of Germany is culpable for Hitler's crimes is ridiculous.
This is a slippery slop fallacy. Failing to intervene against Assad does not mean that future generations will believe it is acceptable to use such weapons against Americans.