Taliban flee battle using children as shields: NATO
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so you are accusing me. you should decide what is your argument sam. so for the whole debate you never argued that its wrong to send children to throw stones at tank that just happen to be there in the middle of the streets, then im telling you no one got hurt, including that there were no reports on palestinians casualties, no blood, no wounded children on the street, every child was gone in second, and who is under attack? the evil idf dude. like i said, at least i care for children and life and i dont use them for political aims, like you did just now.
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Yes, the helicopters had received ground fire, and had reported that information to their controllers, having flown helicopter in combat, I can tell you that to identify a point that you are receiving fire from requires that you be under fire for a long time, if the shooters are not using tracers, now if tracers are used it doesn't take long at all, in fact if the shooters are not using tracers in most cases you never identify the point were the fire is coming from, and if they are using tracers you can bet that the shooters are shoot at you because when you shoot at aircraft you need to adjust fire on a moving target and see were your bullets are going, so how did the Helicopter Crew know were to direct the strike to? remember this was in the dark.
Yes, the helicopters had received ground fire, and had reported that information to their controllers, having flown helicopter in combat, I can tell you that to identify a point that you are receiving fire from requires that you be under fire for a long time, if the shooters are not using tracers, now if tracers are used it doesn't take long at all, in fact if the shooters are not using tracers in most cases you never identify the point were the fire is coming from, and if they are using tracers you can bet that the shooters are shoot at you because when you shoot at aircraft you need to adjust fire on a moving target and see were your bullets are going, so how did the Helicopter Crew know were to direct the strike to? remember this was in the dark.
i guess by twisting everything i said like im in the court of law and you are the prosecutor trying to accuse me of killing children or hurting them, im under attack. or is it my imagination and you're just going to play naive again?
my excuse for what?
Buffalo Roam
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Nickelodeon , tracers my son, traces are used to adjust fire on moving targets, especially aerial targets, in the dark if tracers are not used it is almost imposable to identify were ground fire is coming from, and remember that it was stated that the party fired AK,s tracers are not the normal ammunition fired from a AK, they are every 5th round in belted heavy machinegun ammo, and are there for the purpose of adjusting fire on aerial targets.
Tell me, how do the tanks "just happen to be there"?
Are they "magic tanks"? Like Jacks beans?
after you tell me if you support the use of children in a war zone? there were at least a hundred children there, so their parents must have known.
You as in second person plural. And don't tell me you support the strafing of civilians by inept morons with sticky trigger fingers.
Even the Pentagon doesnt dare take bullshit like this that far.
Your continuing insistance that a wedding party - bombed by US planes - apologised for by the Pentagon - was legitamate because there were terorrists there - is pure horseshit.
Hmm so whats your solution? Seeing as their homes, schools, orchards, whole country (which does not really exist) is a war zone? Maybe a giant hole should be dug where they can conveniently disappear to?
Now back to the "magic tanks".
so that is a yes, samcdkey supports the use of children in war zones.
and for your question, we went in to fight terrorists, that was the goal of the operation. but they were hiding when we came, sending there children to do their dirty work for them. so we left.
i don't recall that happening inside the US borders.
i also don't recall that happening outside of war.
trying to atone for your country turning a blind eye to child trafficking?
or maybe the indian police torturing the indian citizens with impunity?
Its hardly war when they are using "precision guided weapons" against cave dwellers and still killing mostly civilians. Are the cave dwellers more advanced or better trained?
Hmm so you went to fight terrorists with tanks. What were you planning to do, shoot them?
Hmm so you went to fight terrorists with tanks. What were you planning to do, shoot them?
our orders were go in, expose the terrorists and shoot them. but they sent their kids instead the bastards. talk about brain dead officers. tanks now days support infantry mostly in urban warfare.
So the funda is that terrorists will see the tanks and expose themselves?
Talk about phallus envy.
Buffalo Roam
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Nickelodeon, I am not blaming the wedding part, but I am showing you that the Taliban could have been involved in staging the incident, I have been there, I have had the enemy set up a position to stage a attack so as to, when we returned fire, innocent civilians were in the line of fire, and it still comes down to the fact that in the dark of night to identify a point on the ground were the fire was received from, it has to be sustained and be using tracers to adjust fire on the target, if it was of short duration such as firing off a clip of ammo it would be very hard to identify were the origin of the fire was coming from, a AK empties a clip at full auto in 2 seconds, so can you identify in 2 second were a gun is firing from, from a moving helicopter, and remember you also have the sound of the engines, and the rotor blades, and tail rotor, you are wearing a close fitting helmet to protect your hearing from the noise level in the helicopter, and have radio chatter from the radio net, so in a few second of party firing would your be able to identify were ground fire was coming from if tracers, and sustained fire was not present?
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