Telepathy: Thoughts & questions.

[Bebelina]

A lot of verbiage, but no evidence.

As stated in a prior Post:Anecdotes & word salad are not evidence.

BTW: A poster talked about a fly landing on his shoulder & asked he he should be considered either insane or having hallucinations if he could not prove it. Such a claim is not extraordinary: It is not in the same class as a claim of telephatic ability. People are known to have encounters with flies. It is a common phenonenom.

Is it something we want to prove or is it one of those abilities that are best left as guessing eachothers secrets? It's not something we are allowed to do according to the rules of society. It would be considered invasive. Is humanity still evolving is something we also must consider or has it come as far as it was programmed to and is now one small step away from self-destruct? To prove it would be letting the public enter your most private space, is anyone really ready and willing to do that, and not only one but it takes at least two people. It's a fascinating field of unexplored science. If humanity still is evolving telepathy will occur more frequent naturally in our every day lives until it is considered as common as the internet today, but that is most likely many decades into the future.

If you want telepathy proven for yourself you can easily test thinking about people and see if they suddenly call or ask them later if what you thought about them was correct, or if they picked up on your message.

There are also test conducted in laboratories, with the nonsensical use of ping-pong balls, which takes all seriousity away from the whole area of esp. I would like new tests to be done under more suitable circumstances.

 

[Bebelina]

Nvm sorry.

Are you trying to say something?

 

[Quantum Quack]

Originally Posted by Quantum Quack View Post
yes .... trust is the key aspect for telepathy to have any useability at all.
To let someone, a relative stranger, or even a long term lover, to have access to your most intimate and secret domain is tantamount to "standing naked" before God. Most persons have innate fears that prevent any accessibility that is not loaded with deception or fraud. Deception and fraud being the the best way to prevent the revelation of secrets.

I had a situation years ago where by a young and troubled person was wandering around trying to read every one thoughts. What she didn't realize is that every time she entered someones sanctuary uninvited or even invited she would leave a footprint, a signature and create an instinctive need to deceive her with misinformation and threat of counter intrusion. Her life at the time was a misery due to the way others treated her due to her ignorant misuse of her ability to read.

With out significant and I mean "really significant" trust by all concerned including witnesses, telepathy will always be loaded with deceptions.

Young people who are developing telepathy often go a little "insane", as goes for older people who are struck by it suddenly. Psychology defines the belief to have telepathic abilities as a clear sign of mental illness, schizophrenia, psychosis and such, and it could be too in many cases. I have read a lot about the coworkings of schizophrenia and telepathy, that the two are often confused with eachother and/or in some cases are the same. The "illness" is when a person can't control the ability and feels bad about having it.

Trust and personal development go hand in hand. The more you are at one with the universe and have opened up yourself and accepted your human nature and are not ashamed of any thought, bodily function, reaction, feeling etc, then trust comes more easily.

Member Lakon, prompted the following way to aid in describing the reason why I might consider all exchanges to be of psychic nature.
Scenario:
Imagine you are an Alien who can only see his surroundings and the interactions of others. You can not "hear" at a human audio frequency like you can with other races, you can only see.
You witness the day to day interactions between people and wonder " are they all telepathic... they emit no sound and all they do is move their mouths up and down and make strange gestures with their bodies.
You see many people talking into a hand held object but you hear no sound yet you know they are communicating with someone else.
Must be telepathy involved, is the only conclusion you can make..

IMO the whole gamut of interactions be they intersteller noise or planetary core vibrations or the thought of a stranger 30,000 ks away are all of psychic origin or of physical origin... merely a perspective.

All things we do are part of the whole and you can call the whole what ever you like to call it.

just thoughts...and a way of looking...

I agree wholeheartedly that developing a psychic capacity can indeed be rather overwhelming and for some extremely scarey as not many are mature enough nor self developed enough to deal with the exposure or loss of privacy as they move towards a better and more governed Psychic "reflexology"

 

[kwhilborn]

@ Bebelina,

If humanity still is evolving telepathy will occur more frequent naturally in our every day lives until it is considered as common as the internet today, but that is most likely many decades into the future.

In a history filled without use of cellphones and radios it is likely there were many instances where people felt compelled to try psychic contact with friends and relatives far away. Much of psychic communication techniques are recorded and invented in the past. There were many possible secrets lost because of the Catholics rampage across the nations burning anything remotely scientific or dealing with Wiccan type psychic methods. Nostradamus was believed to have used a mixture of various drugs during his readings, but lost books and recipes will never be recovered.

I would suggest that we might have been more psychically aware then than we are now out of necessity and if anything are undergoing reverse evolution when it comes to telepathy. Where we once required it, we can now pick up a telephone and call someone. There is no need to sense if your family is in good health, as you can simply call them.

We are also taught that Psychic powers are unlikely as nobody has been able to prove that they exist in any manner that would pass repeated use of the scientific method.

I think we are progressing into a age where we are losing our abilities in this area, and we must wait for another period conducive to its development.

 

[Bebelina]

@ Bebelina,



In a history filled without use of cellphones and radios it is likely there were many instances where people felt compelled to try psychic contact with friends and relatives far away. Much of psychic communication techniques are recorded and invented in the past. There were many possible secrets lost because of the Catholics rampage across the nations burning anything remotely scientific or dealing with Wiccan type psychic methods. Nostradamus was believed to have used a mixture of various drugs during his readings, but lost books and recipes will never be recovered.

I would suggest that we might have been more psychically aware then than we are now out of necessity and if anything are undergoing reverse evolution when it comes to telepathy. Where we once required it, we can now pick up a telephone and call someone. There is no need to sense if your family is in good health, as you can simply call them.

We are also taught that Psychic powers are unlikely as nobody has been able to prove that they exist in any manner that would pass repeated use of the scientific method.

I think we are progressing into a age where we are losing our abilities in this area, and we must wait for another period conducive to its development.

You may have a point. But I still think we are evolving and towards a more telepathic society and that the new technology helps more than suffocates this ability.
We are so used to always being in contact with the collective that when we log out a part of us are still in it. Other people are reading our posts and subconsciouslu transmitting their thoughts and feelings about it that we could pick up on. So perhaps the new esp is different from the one people had in the days of Nostradamus. Nostradamus himself being the exception to the rule, but common people I would guess only shared their consciosuness more intimately with only a few people at the time, the closest circle of family and friends, while today we connect to millions every day. It's an expansion of the worldview aswell as the consciosuness. But tell that to the ***** on the street, if ya know whatta mean.

 

[Robittybob1]

Hasn't evolution got to do with advantage? I feel cellphones must eliminate any advantage telepathically advanced types had. Cellphones require dexterity and proprioception. (Proprioception refers to the body's ability to sense movement within joints and joint position. This ability enables us to know where our limbs (thumbs) are in space. Gives ability to text without looking at the keys.) That seems to be the advantageous trait to have today!