The Purpose of Life

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  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    "The himog is only visible in so far as He is imperfect," Perdurabo↱ explained, but worry not, it is a Lie.

    He also said↱, "Now and again Travellers cross the desert; they come from the Great Sea, and to the Great Sea they go. As they go they spill water; one day they will irrigate the desert, till it flower." This, too, is a Lie.

    After all, "Nor did He mean what He said", and that↱, also, is a Lie.
     
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  3. davewhite04 Valued Senior Member

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    I'll just water them seeds and hope I ease someone's mind.
     
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  5. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Why does there need to be a purpose to life? After all, if life was created to please some cosmic creator Agency what was the purpose of that Agency to create life to begin with, and its turtles all the way down.
    Personally, I like Hellstrom's observation that; "Life must take life in the interest of life itself".

    It is clear that life is not sacred. "Everything that has ever lived is dead and everything that is alive today is going to die, so where does the sacred part come in?" (Carlin).

    Does an ant in an ant-farm have a purpose in life?
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    What definition of sacred is being used here?
    Does something have to be immortal to be sacred?

    Generally, if something were sacred, one would treat it as precious, and not wantonly cause it harm; but that doesn't mean it's gonna live forever.
    In fact, the fragility of life is oft regarded as on the of things that causes us to treat it as sacred.
     
  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Sacred as in the life of an unborn fetus is more important than the life of the mother. In the US, the Republican-led States are passing draconian laws against abortion, presumably on the religious (not medical) tenet that life is "inviolabe". Daddy rapes 12 year old, she must have that baby.

    The Sacredness of Life: An Overview of the Beginning
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    Except several states have the death penalty and and "sacredness is based on the principle that the life of an unborn child must be protected at all cost, but if it grows up to be a gynecologist, we may just have to kill it" (Carlin).

    If you follow US politics , you will see that "the life of the unborn is sacred, but once you are born your life is worthless.
    Buy an AR15 and "shoot'em up". Person comes to your door, you just shoot them and claim you were in fear of your life.
    Black kid wants to pick up his younger sister from the babysitter, but goes to wrong house. Shoot him dead and claim self-defense.

    White lives are sacred, all other life is expendable or good for the military or slavery.
     
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  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    How does any of that inform the subject?

    The premise of Carlin's quip is that: because things die (of natural causes, being that they are not immortal), it somehow follows that life is not sacred.

    That's just silly. (It's OK; he;s a comedian. His ideas don't have to makes sense.)

    But more to the point: talking about murder, abortion and other forms of deliberate death has nothing to do with the above. Neither mother nor newborn fetus are immortal, and therefore will eventually die. Sacredness is orthogonal to that.



    This appears to be another case where you have been triggered by some keywords and flood the thread with vaguely connected concepts (in quotes containing the keywords) that don't actually inform the discussion. I joke at calling you a bot, but this is exactly what (older, unsophisticated ) bots do. I don't think you are actually grasping what you are posting.
     
  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    It just shows that we use terms like "sacred" without having any standard attached to it at all.
    Are you claiming that the death penalty for having abortion is an example of holding life sacred?
    Try and think some of this through before you come to some kneejerk condemnation of my use of English language. This is a philosophy thread, not literature.
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You didn't "use" the English language, you just spammed a bunch of quotes you found that have the relevant keyword in them. They have no relationship to Carlin's quote beyond the keyword that triggered them. It's like your goal is high word count or high post count.
     
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, keyword; relevant quote.
    Seems like your purpose in life is to play the "clever" linguistic spoiler. I don't expect much from you anymore.
    But then I guess you belong to the "establishment cabal" (James R).

    There is no discussion, just endless arguments about trivia. It's becoming really boring.
     
  13. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Wait, could that establishment provide us with the meaning of life?

    It's something I really want to know.
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Genesis 9:8-10
    The Voice

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis 9:8-10&version=VOICE
    You want to know? We made the whole thing up!

    This will explain in no uncertain terms.
    (warning crude language)
    [/QUOTE]
     
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  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I am of the view there is no meaning of life or even a meaning to life

    At rock bottom life is a group of chemicals which self replicate

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  16. Ukiah Registered Member

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    When your love for another is so great that you cry with joy, you have found your heart and the meaning of life.

    The purpose of life is life itself, because it's a blast, stup.


    Since most suffering is self inflicted by mankind, it is within his grasp to end manmade suffering.
     
  17. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    As an individual, unique from everyone else, I suggest for myself (not necessarily you) that I should define my own meaning in life, as it would best suit me as an individual, being that I am unique from everyone else.
     
  18. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    The bottom has a rocky reputation and at the surface talk is cheap, or so says Joe. Anyway, I'm not in disagreement, but I may be in disagreement that rock bottomers have no meaning. It may be undefined, but not unattainable.

    My rock bottom entailed losing important people, at which point I chose to define my meaning via losing a sober mind. Since then, I have rearranged my definition. That was entirely up to me. Not that my current definition trumps the old, it's just that my current definition of meaning at least offers a sense self of worth, which tastes pretty good as an individual who never had much of that sort of thing.
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    From that aspect you are defining a life

    LIFE as reproducing bunch of chemicals - different box of jim-jams

    You could consider the human box of jim-jams with the ability to self create "a sense self of worth" a feed back loop

    Nothing in the loop however creates an external meaning for any form of life

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  20. ThazzarBaal Registered Senior Member

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    I'll disagree with the loopers not creating meaning for other forms of life, unless you mean life is life and the many varieties of are just other parts of the bigger being of life itself, but even then even stray dogs create a need for action by other lifeforms.
     
  21. Zero Point Native Registered Member

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    Well, I didn't read through all 15 pages, lol, but for me, the purpose of life is very simple and can be summed up in one word. Experience.
     
  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    That's not a sentence; it doesn't really answer the question asked.
    If it were to form a sentence, it would say "The Purpose of Life is Experience".

    But even that is ambiguous.
    Perhaps what you mean is "The Purpose of Life is to gain experience"?
    Or possibly "The Purpose of Life is to have experience(s)"?

    Not very simple after all.
     
  23. Zero Point Native Registered Member

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    Oh, my bad. I only read the OP. I didn't realize it had to be in sentence form, lol. There's really nothing ambiguous about "experience". Experience is just experience. It really is just that simple. There's really nothing complicated about it.
     

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