The Truth: The Mathematical Proof Of God, The Holy Trinity.

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kingiyk:
I did come to this amazing platform in good faith. I simply find it troubling that none here has acknowledged the coincidences revealed in the work. Not a single one. A review should be honest. I expected an explanation for the coincidences and why they prove consistent.
I have just shown you that there's nothing miraculous about your "digital roots". It's just how numbers work.

Are you satisfied with the explanation I have given you?
Let us assume the work is comprised of positive and negative reviews.
There have been no positive reviews.
It would be encouraging to discuss the positives for once.
All you are doing is drawing random connections between thoughts. You like the number 3, and you've found a mathematical fact about the number 3.

What is completely missing from your "work" is any compelling reason for why anybody would want to connect properties of the number 3 to your God or to your religious beliefs.

There is nothing compelling in your claims. There is no meaningful link between the ideas.
The idea of fixing the Cross into a time clock and it corresponding with 369 and Romans 5:6, surely, has to be a topic to ponder upon, and I would be much invested in doing that.
Why have you not addressed DaveC's objection that a clock has four numbers at the compass points: 3, 6, 9 and 12, and not three numbers? A compass has north, south, east and west, not just east, west and south.

Why are you ignoring the number 12, kingiyk? Why?!
 
kingiyk:

Just for completeness...
I have a challenge to present here:

1. When a number is multiplied by 9, the digital root of the product will be 9.

  • 9 x 20 = 180; 1 + 8 + 0 = 9;
  • 9 x 30 = 270; 2 + 7 + 0 = 9;
  • 9 x 40 = 360; 3 + 6 + 0 = 9;
Why is that? And why is this phenomenon exclusive to the number 9?
The number 9 is divisible by 3. Multiplying a number by 9 necessarily results in a number that is divisible by 9.

So, the result of multiplying any integer by 9 is a number that is divisible by both 3 and 9.

The "digital root" of numbers that are divisible by 3 is always 3, 6 or 9. But 3 and 6 are not divisible by 9, as we require, so the only remaining option is that the digital root of our original number is 9.

3. The Earth is the 3rd of 9 planets. Why is that?
There are only 8 planets in our solar system.

Why is Earth the third? Pure, blind coincidence, based on how our solar system formed out of a collapsing cloud of gas and dust. And, as DaveC said, how do we know we should count outwards from the Sun, rather than inwards from the outer edge of the solar system, anyway? And why isn't the Sun itself included in the count? Did your God tell you how to count the planets?

You don't think it's a coincidence, I assume. So why don't you tell us why Earth is the 3rd planet? Is it because your God is awfully fond of the number 3?

What does your God think about the number 17? And how do you know what he thinks about any number, anyway?
I have made an attempt at providing clarity to this wonders.
I think I've done better than you on that score. Do you agree?
 
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JamesR, you really should read posts before you respond ...
Our delightful poster quite clearly stated that we should refrain from saying that is just the way numbers work, and you have really done nothing but explain how it is just the way numbers work...
I have a challenge to present here:

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Please, refrain from saying that is just the way numbers work.

Shame on you for actually answering the question when he quite clearly didn't want to know the answer. ;)

I've asked him to explain how this thread should not be cesspooled but refraining from telling me why it should not be cesspooled, and he hasn't answered, so please take this as a report of pretty much all his posts to please move to cesspool, or free thoughts, or some other suitable places for such garbage. Beliefs are fine, but unwillingness of him to engage honestly should surely not be encouraged by feeding.
 
Please do not troll or preach a sermon. Engage with the questions that have been put to you and try to answer reasonable objections to them.
The Proof succinctly illustrates how

The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = 9;
God = 3;

Tell me, How is it that there just so happens to be three 3s in the number 9?

9 = 3 3 3; each 3 representing an entity of The Trinity:
God The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit

To break it down a bit further, 9 represents the three members of the trinity and 3 represents God. It means there are three individuals who are God in 9-The Trinity.

Couple this with the fact that the holy trinity (333) was derived from the trinity of numbers. (as illustrated in the proof.)

You will need a faith much stronger than mine to believe this a mere coincidence.
 
The Proof succinctly illustrates how

The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = 9;
God = 3;

Tell me, How is it that there just so happens to be three 3s in the number 9?

9 = 3 3 3; each 3 representing an entity of The Trinity:
God The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit

To break it down a bit further, 9 represents the three members of the trinity and 3 represents God. It means there are three individuals who are God in 9-The Trinity.

Couple this with the fact that the holy trinity (333) was derived from the trinity of numbers. (as illustrated in the proof.)

You will need a faith much stronger than mine to believe this a mere coincidence.
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The Proof succinctly illustrates how
It is not a proof. And if it were, it has been falsified, many times over.
At best, it is a conjecture. And it is premised on (demonstrably false) non-facts.

The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = 9;
You've written a nonsensical collection of words. Things don't "equal" numbers.
Why/how does the Father = 3?
Why/how does the Son = 3?
Why/how does the Holy Spirit = 3?
No it doesn't. Things don't equal numbers.

You made these up.

Here, I can do that too.

Dracula + Wolfman + Frankenstein + The Mummy = 4. The Great Quartet.



Tell me, How is it that there just so happens to be three 3s in the number 9?
Because that is how numbers work. If not 'nine' then what would you expect three threes to add up to? Fnord? OK, in English, we call Fnord "nine".


9 = 3 3 3; each 3 representing an entity of The Trinity:
Why? You made up that connection out of whole cloth.

God The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit

To break it down a bit further, 9 represents the three members of the trinity and 3 represents God. It means there are three individuals who are God in 9-The Trinity.

Couple this with the fact that the holy trinity (333) was derived from the trinity of numbers. (as illustrated in the proof.)

You will need a faith much stronger than mine to believe this a mere coincidence.
There is no coincidence here. You forced it all.

Look:
Let Larry = A
Let Moe = B
Let Curly = C
Larry + Mo + Curly = ABC.

But ABC are the beginning of the English alphabet! Coincidence? No! Clearly it is the a sign of something much more fundamental about the universe!
 
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That's four.

and 12. As you literally just finished saying explicitly.


So, because three is your chosen number, you just eliminate the fourth.

"The compass has three points!" you say. "East West and South, with North to unify them."




No. Each of your premises must stand on its own, If any one of them (let alone most of them) don't make the grade, they fall, and take the conclusion with them.

1. What you're trying to do is tantamount to this:
I claim that two to the fourth power is 18. Here is my proof:
P1: 2x2=4.
P2: 4x2=9.
P2: 9x2=18.


Er. One of your premises is false. 4x2 does not equal 9. So the conclusion you came to is wrong.

Well the proof must be examined in its entirety. Ripping out a segment as you did is disingenuous. (I mean, I got some of it right, didn't I? The other two premises are correct. Don't I still get credit?)"

No. Faulty premises result in faulty conclusions. Full stop.

The list of your premises could be gone through one by one but really, there's no need.



2. Look, here's another one:
"The Earth is the Third of Nine Planets."

Says who? Certainly not the Bible.
It was the only planet for Millenia, then it was one of five for a while, then it was one of six, then seven, then eight, then nine. Now it's eight again.

All of these counts are due to modern human decisions, over centuries - and in some case, simply boards of humans: the Royal Astronomical Society said Pluto isn't a planet so it isn't. (Was God sitting on that board? Or was he only interested in the 76-year period of 1930 till 2006, the only years that there were nine planets?)

So you can choose any number you want, from one to nine however it suits your preferred flavour of idea. This is what it means to torture the facts to fit the idea.

All your premises are using arbitrary numbers to suit your idea.



3. Here's another:

"(I need to find things with threes...) Birds have two wings and a body. So do whales."

Birds have heads, feet and tails. Whales have flukes. Why do you stop at three?

When I asked you why, you said: "Ah well because when The Cross is fixed into a Time Clock, the co-ordinates are 3 6 9 and 12. The Cross is comprised of three entities:
3, 6, 9"


For one: No it isn't; you just listed four. Again, do you just drop one when it doesn't fit?
But more to the point: What do birds and whales have to do with crosses? Where in the Bible was a bird or whale crucified on a cross?


You have decided a priori that three is The Number of Things you consider significant, and then you go looking for instances of threes in things.

• But when you find four or five or six things (such as body parts) you just stop at three and make up a justification about coordinates of a cross.
• And the cross is - itself - not three; it's four. So, once again, you just stop counting at three and make up a new name for the fourth.
• Or when you find only eight things (such as planets) or seven or six or five or one, (and arbitrarily labeled as such by humans for a mere 76 years) you just pick the number that suits your a priori target: nine. Wait, what's nine? I thought it was three?
• Yes, nine is still not three, so you have to do some further arithmetic gymnastics on it until it becomes three.

(Look at that. I gave you exactly three examples. Surely that's a sign of unity with the cosmos, proving I'm right! Or did I just stop at three and call it unity with the cosmos? See how easy it is?)


This is textbook Numerology; it is the pastime of generating illusory meaning in meaningless numbers by grinding them just enough - and stopping at just the right time - to get the numbers you want.


Numerology is Element Nu. 14th on the Periodic Table of Irrational Nonsense, snuggled up with Perpetual Motion, Astrology and in the Delusions-Block.


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It is not a proof. And if it were, it has been falsified, many times over.
At best, it is a conjecture. And it is premised on (demonstrably false) non-facts.


You've written a nonsensical collection of words. Things don't "equal" numbers.
Why/how does the Father = 3?
Why/how does the Son = 3?
Why/how does the Holy Spirit = 3?

No it doesn't. Things don't equal numbers.

You made these up.

Here, I can do that too.

Dracula + Wolfman + Frankenstein + The Mummy = 4. The Great Quartet.




Because that is how numbers work. If not 'nine' then what would you expect three threes to add up to? Fnord? OK, in English, we call Fnord "nine".



Why? You made up that connection out of whole cloth.


There is no coincidence here. You forced it all.

Look:
Let Larry = A
Let Moe = B
Let Curly = C
Larry + Mo + Curly = ABC.

But ABC are the beginning of the English alphabet! Coincidence? No! Clearly it is the a sign of something much more fundamental about the universe!
"There is no coincidence here. You forced it all."

I certainly did not force the recurring sequence of 3 6 9 that is derived from the trinity of numbers. nor did I make the cross fit perfectly into the time clock. Nor did I make 9 a unique number in the digital roots system.

The proof also illustrates how
God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God.

Such could only be possible if all three entities are God.

What we are discussing here are matters of spirit. Rid your mind of its carnal ways and you shall begin to see The Truth.

The ways of God are distinct from the ways of men.
 
"There is no coincidence here. You forced it all."

I certainly did not force the recurring sequence of 3 6 9
That is numbers.

that is derived from the trinity of numbers.
It is derived from counting.

nor did I make the cross fit perfectly into the time clock.
You faked it. The cross has four points; you keep stopping when you get to your favourite number.

Nor did I make 9 a unique number in the digital roots system.
It is not unique. It is simply a property of numbers. Any numbering system will have such patterns.

The proof also illustrates how
God + The Father + The Son + The Holy Spirit = God.
Let's look at that a little closer, shall we?

A=God,
B-Father,
C=Son,
D=Holy Spirit

Let:
A+B+C+D = A

It follows that
• B+C+D = 0 (zero),
• A is not unique. A can be anything, including zero.

Your math concludes that
• your Trinity is worthless ( equals zero) and that
• your God is undefined, It could be zero or a cumquat or a can of STP oil

Well done.


Such could only be possible if all three entities are God.
What does God have to do with any of this? You are exploring basic arithmetic, familiar to any child. You have made no logical connection to God.

What we are discussing here are matters of spirit. Rid your mind of its carnal ways and you shall begin to see The Truth. The ways of God are distinct from the ways of men.

And the penny finally drops.

So this really has been a long-winded opportunity to preach and judge.

Reported.
 
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You will need a faith much stronger than mine to believe this a mere coincidence.
Most here don't use faith to believe anything put in front of them, they use brains to think. Try it sometime.
 
What we are discussing here are matters of spirit. Rid your mind of its carnal ways and you shall begin to see The Truth.
No, we are discussing numbers and how you magically fit them into your faith based delusions. You want us to rid our minds of our brains so that we just fall blindly into your so-called "Truth"
The ways of God are distinct from the ways of men.
We are not gods, we are men hence we have no choice but to think in the ways of men. You are not a god and you know as much about gods as anyone else. So, stuff your lies up your ass.
 
Given that everyone other than the OP knows that this should be cesspooled, and that the OP is not responding in good faith, why are people still responding with lengthy replies? Baffles me entirely.

Moths.
Flame.
Something goes here about those, I think.

"Ooh, it's a (religious) crank! Pile on!"
A few good efforts up front, fair enough, but we're 7 pages in and the situation is clear.

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Given that everyone other than the OP knows that this should be cesspooled, and that the OP is not responding in good faith, why are people still responding with lengthy replies?
For fun!

I mean, I hope people here don't think any of this matters. And if you're not enjoying it, no reason to keep reading.
 
Given that everyone other than the OP knows that this should be cesspooled, and that the OP is not responding in good faith, why are people still responding with lengthy replies? Baffles me entirely.

Moths.
Flame.
Something goes here about those, I think.

"Ooh, it's a (religious) crank! Pile on!"
A few good efforts up front, fair enough, but we're 7 pages in and the situation is clear.

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People keep responding because deep in their hearts they know I am onto something.

A God revealed himself to be The Beginning and The End (Revelation 22:13).
The same God revealed himself to be One(1) and a Trinity(333).
I employed the trinity of numbers to show that God to be the One True God(OTG) -

1 2345678 9(333)

God is The beginning(1) and He is The End 9(3 3 3)Trinity.

This is more than enough to rattle the most stable mind.
 
People keep responding because deep in their hearts they know I am onto something.
No, it's because they get some psychological satisfaction from kicking cranks, religious or otherwise. It's like a fox hunt. Maybe the fox thinks that the hounds and horses and humans are chasing them "because deep in their hearts they know he is on to something", but in reality it is simply because they thoroughly enjoy ripping helpless animals to shreds.

But please understand: given that you have shown yourself to be a religious crank, you are now their sport.

Enjoy it while you last.
 
People keep responding because deep in their hearts they know I am onto something.
We keep responding for the same reason we are in SciFo in the first place.
We like the opportunity to teach. And we are hopeful.

The same God revealed himself to be One(1) and a Trinity(333).
This is just numbers you made up.

I employed the trinity of numbers to show that God to be the One True God(OTG) -

1 2345678 9(333)
We know how numbers work. They seem to be new to you. Look at the errors you've made:

1. You've listed only nine of the ten cardinal numerals (presumably because nine suits you better than 10).
2. You put some spaces in - after the one, and before the nine - again, forgetting zero, to draw attention to them. It draws attention to the fact that you have miscounted.
3. And then you tacked on a 333 on the end, which has no logical connection whatever with (the previous sequence of only nine of the ten) numerals.

Look at that. Three errors. It must be divine providence.


God is The beginning(1) and He is The End 9(3 3 3)Trinity.
Stating the same thing over and over without further elaboration.
It is as unsupported this time as it was the first time.

You've been reduced to just thumping your Bible repeatedly and mindlessly, just like every other cult-follower.


Look, we have presented you with logic and reason showing how the premises that support your claims are simply - and explicitly - not true. Some are just straight up lies.

See, you have been corrected on some of things you have stated, multiple times (crosses have four points, there are eight planets, etc.). you have had the opportunity to verify and correct your knowledge about them (Wiki any of these subjects). But instead of addressing and correcting them, you are now knowingly stating falsehoods. That is the definition of a lie.

Reported for knowingly making false statements.
 
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kingiyk:
Tell me, How is it that there just so happens to be three 3s in the number 9?
Are you asking why 3+3+3=9 now?

Better start with why 1+1=2 and work your way up to the complex maths from there.

9 = 3 3 3; each 3 representing an entity of The Trinity:
Why are there three Trinities?

To break it down a bit further, 9 represents the three members of the trinity
What does 3 represent then?

Does 3 represent 1?

Does 7 represent 12? Does 13 represent 347?
and 3 represents God.
Why does 3 represent God?
It means there are three individuals who are God in 9-The Trinity.
Why is 9 the Trinity? I thought 3 was the Trinity.

You're getting yourself all muddled.
Couple this with the fact that the holy trinity (333) was derived from the trinity of numbers. (as illustrated in the proof.)
You know, the irony is that I showed you what an actual proof looks like in this thread.

Yet here you are, pretending that your silly numerical word games are a proof.

You have a lot to learn. Welcome to the wonderful world of numbers and maths!
You will need a faith much stronger than mine to believe this a mere coincidence.
I just showed you why a bunch of your stuff is not a coincidence, but instead is just a property of numbers.
 
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