Sarkus:
And I disagree. This thread is not about what MR thinks, or why he thinks.
Or
whether he thinks...
It's about what we all think. You focus too much by far on MR, to the point of fixation.
Like it or not, MR is the main source of "new" UFO cases in this thread.
I am not about to waste my time trawling through the UFO faniverse looking for a moderately-puzzling case. That's like searching for a needle in a huge messy haystack.
But MR assures us that
he is filtering out only the very best of the best cases and presenting them for our consideration. Now,
I think that's bullshit, since MR has no filtering skills to speak of. But still, I do find some of the cases he presents to be a moderately-diverting puzzle-solving challenge. They are a way to pass some time and exercise the skeptical brain cells.
Ignore what MR thinks. Simples.
Then, and here's a cunning thing we can do: ignore him. Choose not to reply to him.
That wouldn't be nearly as much fun. MR provides an excellent and instructive example, I find, for just how badly a religion-like faith can cause one to fail, over and over again. I enjoy pointing that out to interested readers - particularly ones who might be on the fence about the "reality" of alien visitation etc.
Examine the cases he (or anyone else) puts up and come to your own conclusions, or discuss other people's (not MR's).
I have examined many of the cases he has put forward. I have stated my tentative conclusions in many cases.
You're a mod, so I guess you have that side of your remit, sure. But in doing so, at least in the way you do, you ruin what the thread is about, by continually sidetracking it to be about MR, and continually trying to change what you know won't be changed.
I don't expect MR to change. That train left the station years ago. There are other people here who have open minds, however.
You don't like what he says? Ignore it. Why continue to bang your head against a wall in this thread about it? If you want to discuss why MR believes what he does, or why people more generally believe what they do, set up a thread for it. But continually sidetracking this thread and turning it to what you think are MR's issues... well, is it worth ruining a thread for that?
You seem to have this perception that we'd all be busily solving UFO cases if it wasn't for me making an example of MR and his nonsenses. You wouldn't be. You're not out there on the interwebs tracking down UFO reports, any more than I am. You're only commenting on the cases MR brings to the table, same as me.
What's going on here, mostly, is that MR posts a "new" case and it is almost immediately dealt with by yourself and others. Almost invariably, significant holes in the evidence and claims are uncovered by the competent people here almost immediately. Since nobody on the UFO fanboy team ever has a good argument in defence of the alien hypothesis (or whatever), most cases are quickly dealt with and left as dubious (even if not definitely "solved") and unconvincing. Then, you have to wait until MR's careful (!) curation of youtube throws up the next doubtful UFO example.
This means there's quite a lot of dead time in this thread. Since MR is useless for counter-arguments and practically useless at making any sort of case in support of whatever it is he actually believes about UFOs, that "waiting time" tends to get filled with meta-discussion about, for example, just
why MR is so terrible an advocate for his own beliefs.
This is not off-topic. The question of why, in an educated western nation like the United States, so many people are so bad at critical thinking, so ready to be sucked into various conspiracy vortices, so distrustful of their own governors, etc., is very relevant to the UFO topic. MR, being perhaps the only hard-core UFO fanboy here, makes an excellent subject for study.
So what!? Ignore him! Look at the cases he puts forward but then ignore his analysis. You know he "keeps telling [lies], knowingly and deliberately" so ignore him.
Actually, we have rules against that here.
You might be interested to know that MR, in his time here, has accumulated more than 70 official warnings for various breaches of our site rules. He has been pegged several times for knowingly telling lies. He
almost got to the point of being permanently banned, but he has learned to back off until his warning points expire.
You might well ask why I haven't just permabanned MR by now. He is incorrigible, after all. If I was Tiassa, probably he'd be gone by now. But I believe there is value to be had in showing how this sort of person operates. Like I said, he is an excellent example.
Then this thread can get back to what it was/should be, and not what you turn it to.
Maybe
you should think about what
you could do to make it all that you wish it to be. Mostly, it looks to me like you're just reactive, like the rest of us. Also, see what's happening in this latest lull? Even you have opted for the meta-discussion, while you wait for MR's next Q drop.
I know that, you know that, and MR knows that. So what? You're fixated on him. You seem to have turned this into "The MR Show" for so long that even now you're being critical that he's not the focus, or himself done anything interesting. That's all on you and your perspective, which is warped due to your apparent fixation.
You don't have a very good grasp of my motivations. Maybe you should do you. Just a thought.
But since he's the only one who really puts forward any cases for analysis, I'd say that's something. If you want to put up cases, no one is stopping you, are they?
I don't want to.
Or can you only ever be critical, like Waldorf and Statler. Although at least they're amusing. Have you posted any videos of cases here for analysis?
Actually, now that you mention it, a while back I started a nice little discussion about a rather famous historical UFO case, which I investigated reasonably extensively at the time (I had some spare time). My thread on that case made for an illuminating tutorial on how to conduct a UFO investigation properly, and my conclusions in that case are persuasive. You might like to search it up. It's a great read.
