Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?

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Here's a bunch of info I just came across.

http://radioislam.org/islam/english/revision/six_million_myth.htm
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Poland, under British influence, refuses to concede to Hitler any of his relatively modest territorial demands. Hitler sought to recover the territory stripped away from Germany and given to Poland at the end of WWI; specifically the formerly German city of Danzig. Hitler also demanded an autobahn in the Danzig corridor connecting the German mainland to East Prussia. Poland categorically refused all of Hitler’s somewhat reasonable demands.

In September Poland is invaded from the west by Germany and from the east by the Soviet Union. Britain and France immediately declare war on Germany, supposedly because of Hitler’s invasion of Poland. However, Britain and France did not declare war on the Soviet Union who also had invaded Poland and then attacked Finland a few months later.

The reason the Allies only found fault with Germany for invading Poland, and not the Soviets, was because the USSR was under Jewish rule, and had been since 1917. The purpose of WWII all along was not to free Poland but to destroy Germany, who had broken loose from the grip of the Jews. The Allies, who originally claimed to be concerned for Poland’s sovereignty, dumped Poland, along with the rest of Eastern Europe, off to the Soviet-Communist butchers at the end of the war! This Allied betrayal proves that the Allies never cared about Poland at all. Poland was nothing more than a pawn used by the Allied warmongers to sucker the Third Reich into a war.
 
Well we have reached conclusions based on real evidence and real history and not some specious web site spewing spurious stories.
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Is the real history you refer to the American version of history? Did you hear these speeches of Hitler's in school?
http://www.liveleak.com/browse?q=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+His+Reasons+For+Invading+The+Soviet+Union
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+Reasons+For+Invading+Poland&sm=12

Americans are taught that Hitler told the German people that they should take over Europe to expand their territory and that the German people said, "Good idea. Let's do it". The above speeches show what the German people and soldiers were thinking during the war which show that the American government lied to the people. History is written by the winner but the truth may finally come out.

Do you pro-official version posters agree that Americans were lied to about what the German people were thinking during the war? I'm not saying Hitler was not lying when he gave those speeches. I'm only saying that the German people and soldiers were not thinking that they were conquering Europle to expand German territory.
 
FatFreddy said:
Here's a bunch of info I just came across.

http://radioislam.org/islam/english/revision/six_million_myth.htm
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Poland, under British influence, refuses to concede to Hitler any of his relatively modest territorial demands. Hitler sought to recover the territory stripped away from Germany and given to Poland at the end of WWI; specifically the formerly German city of Danzig. Hitler also demanded an autobahn in the Danzig corridor connecting the German mainland to East Prussia. Poland categorically refused all of Hitler’s somewhat reasonable demands.

In September Poland is invaded from the west by Germany and from the east by the Soviet Union. Britain and France immediately declare war on Germany, supposedly because of Hitler’s invasion of Poland. However, Britain and France did not declare war on the Soviet Union who also had invaded Poland and then attacked Finland a few months later.

The reason the Allies only found fault with Germany for invading Poland, and not the Soviets, was because the USSR was under Jewish rule, and had been since 1917. The purpose of WWII all along was not to free Poland but to destroy Germany, who had broken loose from the grip of the Jews. The Allies, who originally claimed to be concerned for Poland’s sovereignty, dumped Poland, along with the rest of Eastern Europe, off to the Soviet-Communist butchers at the end of the war! This Allied betrayal proves that the Allies never cared about Poland at all. Poland was nothing more than a pawn used by the Allied warmongers to sucker the Third Reich into a war.
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What half-wittedly antisemitic nonsense. Was Stalin was a Jew?
 
What half-wittedly antisemitic nonsense. Was Stalin was a Jew?
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Here are two revisionist articles.

http://globalfire.tv/nj/08en/history/origins_of_ww2.htm
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"To many outside observers, the Russian revolution looked like a Jewish conspiracy, especially when it was followed by Jewish-led revolutionary outbreaks in much of central Europe. The leadership of the Bolshevik Party had a preponderance of Jews. Of the seven members of the Politburo, the inner cabinet of the country, four, Trotsky (Bronstein), Zinoviev (Radomsky), Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Sverdlov, were Jews." Other authors agree with this:

"There has been a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the German Communist Party, and thereby seriously neglect one of the genuine and objective reasons for increased anti-Semitism during and after World War 1. The prominence of Jews in the revolution and early Weimar Republic is indisputable, and this was a very serious contributing cause for increased anti-Semitism in post-war years. It is clear then that the stereotype of Jews as socialists and communists. led many Germans to distrust the Jewish minority as a whole and to brand Jews as enemies of the German nation." (Sarah Gordon, "Hitler, Germans and the Jewish Question", Princeton University Press (1984) p 23).
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http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.se/2012/03/more-important-history-revealed-how.html
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How Hitler defied the bankers

Many people take joy in saying Wall Street and Jewish bankers "financed Hitler." There is plenty of documented evidence that Wall Street and Jewish bankers did indeed help finance Hitler at first, partly because it allowed the bankers to get rich (as I will describe below) and partly in order to control Stalin.

However, when Germany broke free from the bankers, the bankers declared a world war against Germany.
When we look at all the facts, the charge that "Jews financed Hitler" becomes irrelevant. Los Angeles Attorney Ellen Brown discusses this topic in her book Web Of Debt…
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Here's a talk by a revisionist historian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nv2zlFlw-0


The US government has no credibility. It lies about history to the American people all the time. Here are some expamples.

https://www.google.es/webhp?source=...WDImN4wT3mYCACg#q=lies+my+teacher+told+me+pdf
http://www.scuttlebuttsmallchow.com/racket.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/KillingHope_page.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman /ThirdWorldFascism_ChomHer.html

Here's a scientist complaining about censorship in science journals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bAE7FGdNmA
(00:16 time mark)

The official American version of anything shouldn't be taken as fact. The above stuff about Germany seems plausible. The only argument you people put forward is that it disagrees with what you've been taught.


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Here's another online book.

http://www.johnkaminski.info/pages/the_next_chapter/pdf/the_nameless_war.pdf
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The urgent alarm sounded in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke in his letter to Mr. Balfour,
denouncing bolshevism as a Jewish plan, which if not checked by the combined action
of the European Powers, would engulf Europe and the world, was no exaggeration.
By the end of that year the red flag was being hoisted in most of the great cities of
Europe. In Hungary the Jew Bela Kuhn organised and maintained for some time a
merciless and bloody tyranny similar to the one in Russia. In Germany, the Jews
Leibknecht, Barth, Scheidemann, Rosa Luxemburg, etc., made a desperate bid for
power. These and other similar convulsions shook Europe; but each country in its own
way just frustrated the onslaughts.
In most countries concerned a few voices were raised in an endeavour to expose the
true nature of these evils. Only in one, however, did a political leader and group arise,
who grasped to the full the significance of these happenings, and perceived behind the
mobs of native hooligans the organisation and driving power of world Jewry.
 
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FatFreddy said:
Here are two revisionist articles.

http://globalfire.tv/nj/08en/history/origins_of_ww2.htm
(excerpt)
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"To many outside observers, the Russian revolution looked like a Jewish conspiracy, especially when it was followed by Jewish-led revolutionary outbreaks in much of central Europe. The leadership of the Bolshevik Party had a preponderance of Jews. Of the seven members of the Politburo, the inner cabinet of the country, four, Trotsky (Bronstein), Zinoviev (Radomsky), Kamenev (Rosenfeld) and Sverdlov, were Jews." Other authors agree with this:

"There has been a tendency to circumvent or simply ignore the significant role of Jewish intellectuals in the German Communist Party, and thereby seriously neglect one of the genuine and objective reasons for increased anti-Semitism during and after World War 1. The prominence of Jews in the revolution and early Weimar Republic is indisputable, and this was a very serious contributing cause for increased anti-Semitism in post-war years. It is clear then that the stereotype of Jews as socialists and communists. led many Germans to distrust the Jewish minority as a whole and to brand Jews as enemies of the German nation." (Sarah Gordon, "Hitler, Germans and the Jewish Question", Princeton University Press (1984) p 23).
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http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.se/2012/03/more-important-history-revealed-how.html
(excerpt)
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How Hitler defied the bankers

Many people take joy in saying Wall Street and Jewish bankers "financed Hitler." There is plenty of documented evidence that Wall Street and Jewish bankers did indeed help finance Hitler at first, partly because it allowed the bankers to get rich (as I will describe below) and partly in order to control Stalin.

However, when Germany broke free from the bankers, the bankers declared a world war against Germany.
When we look at all the facts, the charge that "Jews financed Hitler" becomes irrelevant. Los Angeles Attorney Ellen Brown discusses this topic in her book Web Of Debt…
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Here's a talk by a revisionist historian.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nv2zlFlw-0


The US government has no credibility. It lies about history to the American people all the time. Here are some expamples.

https://www.google.es/webhp?source=...WDImN4wT3mYCACg#q=lies+my+teacher+told+me+pdf
http://www.scuttlebuttsmallchow.com/racket.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/KillingHope_page.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman /ThirdWorldFascism_ChomHer.html

Here's a scientist complaining about censorship in science journals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bAE7FGdNmA
(00:16 time mark)

The official American version of anything shouldn't be taken as fact. The above stuff about Germany seems plausible. The only argument you people put forward is that it disagrees with what you've been taught.


edit twenty minutes later-
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Here's another online book.

http://www.johnkaminski.info/pages/the_next_chapter/pdf/the_nameless_war.pdf
(excerpt)
-------------------------------------
The urgent alarm sounded in 1918 by Mr. Oudendyke in his letter to Mr. Balfour,
denouncing bolshevism as a Jewish plan, which if not checked by the combined action
of the European Powers, would engulf Europe and the world, was no exaggeration.
By the end of that year the red flag was being hoisted in most of the great cities of
Europe. In Hungary the Jew Bela Kuhn organised and maintained for some time a
merciless and bloody tyranny similar to the one in Russia. In Germany, the Jews
Leibknecht, Barth, Scheidemann, Rosa Luxemburg, etc., made a desperate bid for
power. These and other similar convulsions shook Europe; but each country in its own
way just frustrated the onslaughts.
In most countries concerned a few voices were raised in an endeavour to expose the
true nature of these evils. Only in one, however, did a political leader and group arise,
who grasped to the full the significance of these happenings, and perceived behind the
mobs of native hooligans the organisation and driving power of world Jewry.
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So, was Stalin a Jew?
 
This thread looks like an excuse for FatFreddy to spam us with holocaust denial websites.

Are you trying to drum up some business, FatFreddy?
 
No, Stalin was not a Jew. He was raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith but was an atheist in adulthood as all good communists are.
 
FatFreddy said:
Please respond to post #68.
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What is to respond to? Your post number 68 is completely false. In fact it is nonsensical. Americans were not taught the things you claim they were taught. I am an American, I was never taught anything derogatory about the German people. I wasn’t taught what the German people were thinking. I was however taught about Hitler and fascism. And I was taught what really happened. If you have evidence that the historical record is wrong, now is the time to produce said evidence. The problem for you and those like you is that there are millions of people who lived thorough that period and can voice the truth.

The American people invested a lot of money feeding the German people and rebuilding the country after the war. My wife’s parents lived in Berlin during the war. They have nothing negative to say about the Americans. In fact they warmly recall the Raisin Bombers during the Berlin Blockade.
 
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