PuPuPlatter42
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But, you see, as I said in my post, 'in my experience', this has been true for ME. You cannot state what is or is not true for me, because you have not had my experiences of atheists trying to convert me to their point of view.Originally posted by Raha
No, sorry, but this is simply not true.
I agree - and, if you reread my post, nowhere did I state that. I only stated what I, personally have experienced.Nowhere is stated that in order to be a "good atheist" you must try to deconvert people...
I fully agree with this! I'm pretty tired of the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on my front door, too!...which is just the opposite to most religion, where missionary work is always recommended if not mandatory (like with mormons).
Yes, probably!You are right that some people have an urge to persuade others about their "truth", but it has nothing to do with atheism. It is more like psychological problem.
Again, 'in my experience', I've actually had atheists use some of that very dogma you mention to support THEIR claims. And there is something to be said for that. There are so many inconsistancies in the bible and translation problems, that it can be used to support just about anything. Even murder! That pesky 'eye for an eye' thing again! I think I should have not used the wording I did - I apologize. My atheist friends were calling themselves 'true atheists' - and that was my frame of reference. I did not mean to imply that all true atheists are this way.No, really. Without seeking further information it is hardly even belief - more proper term would be "disbelief", because you just deny something without proper framework to explain it. Which is again rather different from religion, where you have a whole "arsenal" of dogmas to backup your belief.
I agree with the 'closed system' thing. It IS too bad that they ('man-made religions') leave no room for questions. I hope and pray for science and theism to, one day, come together. I believe it is possible. (I, too, am eager to learn more about the universe, origin of life, etc.! I AM a scientist!) But it will take a lot more tolerance and understanding FROM EVERYONE to reach this point.Also - every religion is "closed system". It provides final answer to everything. There are no questions, no development (at least, no real development. Questions like "how many angels can dance on the top of needle" do count, I hope). But atheism is process connected to science. Most atheists I know are eager to learn more about universe, origin of life etc. And there is nothing agnostic in willingness to accept god if proven by evidence. Atheist who denies evidence is not an atheist. It's dumbass. But of course, the probability of finding such evidence is very low (from atheistic point of view).