Re: Mankind's Hubris
Originally posted by the scribbler
The scientific age has been characterised by a succession of supposed "experts" at their unique and compartmentalized branches of knowledge. Each generation of scientists has been proven to have had, at best, a partial hold on the truth of things as it were. You only have to go back 30 years to find experts telling us that life can not exist without photosynthesis for example. Tube worms at the bottom of our own ocean have proven them wrong. Experts can't even predict the weather with any reasonable degree of accuracy. How can they calculate the random permutations in a native gene pool when it becomes contaminated with alien genes?
Theory gets revised, science is not about knowing the truth but about finding it. Newtons laws were proven wrong by relativity even so Newton’s laws are very accurate until you reach speeds near light. Photosynthesis represent the most abundant energy source out there with out it life would not live on land. So a dogma is proven to have exception woop-tee-do.
Predicting the weather does not have a relation to Biological science and that comparison is a fallacy.
And I don’t know where you’re going with the alien thing?
the crux of the matter is not whether science has gone too far with G.E. but why has it gone down this road in the first place. There is hardly any pure science for the sake of knowledge going on anywhere in the world today. Science has been coopted by industry to serve its' purposes. No grant no work for the scientist- and where does the grant come from? Big Business.
Well then the science of breeding and hybridizing should also be banished.
So should we be prepared to go down a road we are told is safe by scientists who have generations of errors and mistaken judgements behind them, who are only saying what they are saying because they are getting paid to?
The science of breeding and hybridization have also ended in may failures that resulted ecological and health disasters. In fact error have been made in many technologies over the last few thousand years, should we not partake in them as well, despite the fact that what good did come from it allowed us to thrive? You should be careful of your generalization fallacy.
What is really at stake is total control of the food chain from farm to shop and all points in between. I would also add that a less than healthy population serves everyone's purposes here as well - as the G.M. corps. are all in bed with Big Pharma.
business is the problem, please change the corporate structure and laws. GM it self is not evil but many want to use it for their own good not others.
All of the truly independent science being done on G.M. has pointed to alarming threats to our species' very own genetic identity. That's right- ours. Bees who consume G.M. pollen have been found to have mutated digestive enzymes. What is more they pass this trait on to their offspring. What function do these enzymes fulfill other than digesting? They are the first stage in our immune system and actually consume vast ammounts of bacteria, mold spore and other microbes we come into contact with. Any one notice the virtual epidemic of allergies sweeping the world over the past few years. It's gotten to the point that a dinner party for several guests requires the cooking skills of a professional juggler.
Actually the epidemic of allergies was noted to have started happening in the early 1950's Long before the first GM product by 30 years! This epidemic is most likely cause by over cleanliness preventing children from getting exposed to allergens at a young age and resulting in very allergenic adults, also lung pollution as been citied for over simulated the immune system.
Also I would like you to explain a possible mechanism to how GM product mutate people or other organisms?
It isn't bad enough how about the Dutch teenager who fed over the counter G.M. breakfast cereals to mice in a controled experiment and found at the end of the experiment that 95% of his subjects were either seriously unhealhy or had perished. (see the Ecologist and nexusmagazine)
Was there a control involved? What cereal? how much was feed? could you provide a link please?
We must all learn to do our own research on almost any issue in this world that really matters because the Great and the Good have abdicated their responsibility to protect the common welfare. Anyway I've said my bit and will get off the soap box for now.
