What is the goal of integrating mentally retarded people in normal schools?

Ah, so now you can't read and comprehend that English language? ...and yet you were "offended" earlier? ...LOL!!

Baron Max

I'm giving you an opportunity to explain, I think you know what I mean. I can comprehend quite well, thank you.
 
Please explain.

YOU are the one claiming offense, thus YOU need to EXPLAIN why you are offended and BY WHAT ...

keep in mind millions of people die each year from preventable illnesses because governments wont give them the medication required for free while they spend money on flash state cars and big mansions etc...

thus people support this process of fiscally driven genocide by their continued support.

places like Africa and Asia are prime examples where people tolerate the massive corruption while food aid organisations continue to enable these corrupt governments to avoid massive rebellions.

holding hope out on a stick for them which they will never reach.

maybe like eons gone by if em mass they realise they are all going to suffer and die because of it and realise they have nothing to lose by violent over throw of these massively corrupt governments they will rise up and do what the UN is supposed to have done many many years ago and wipe these genocidal psychopath governments out with its massive superior military power.
 
compulsory child insurance for all those intending on having children.

if they have children and don't have insurance then they get nothing.

the ultimate user pays society like the republican party wish to have.

we should not have any over population problems in the west because the average person cant afford to have kids and pay for their education.


given the fact that a child with learning disabilities or some type of illness/birth defect costs many times more and the family can never afford to pay for it the community must pay through tax.

how can you claim ownership of something that other people are paying to support ?


socialism
 
A good thing? Why? What good does it to to introduce abnormal kids into a classroom? What is the purpose of that disruption?

What good are those kids to the society? In almost all cases, they end up being a burden on society. Hell, we even shoot horses when they break legs, yet we keep retarded kids forever! Is there no logic being used whatsoever?



Ain't my problem, they ain't my kids! And I think that's an important point. Normal people didn't have any say in having those kids, so why should they have to foot the bill to pay for them?
And normal school taxes are for normal kids educations, NOT for edcuating or caring for the retarded or disabled who require lots of additional care and special facilities.



Well, they can't ....because if they could, without any special care or facilities, then we wouldn't be talking about them here! This thread is about disabled and/or retarded kids that require extra care, additional, special facilities, etc.

Baron Max

are you seriously saying Max that only abnormal people have children with disabilities? Because i can tell you for fact now, that you are wrong,
 
compulsory child insurance for all those intending on having children.

if they have children and don't have insurance then they get nothing.

the ultimate user pays society like the republican party wish to have.

we should not have any over population problems in the west because the average person cant afford to have kids and pay for their education.


given the fact that a child with learning disabilities or some type of illness/birth defect costs many times more and the family can never afford to pay for it the community must pay through tax.

how can you claim ownership of something that other people are paying to support ?


socialism

not all countries will allow you to insure children, and for one i can unerstand why.
 
are you seriously saying Max that only abnormal people have children with disabilities? Because i can tell you for fact now, that you are wrong,

No, where did you get that???????

But whoever has those kids with "problems" should take care of those problems on their own! It's not society's kid, it's their kid.

Baron Max
 
No, where did you get that???????

But whoever has those kids with "problems" should take care of those problems on their own! It's not society's kid, it's their kid.

Baron Max

to a certain degree you are right, however the child needs an education.

And for the record i do look after my children with conditions, and will continue to do so because that is my job, however would you be saying to people who are unempolyed, or cannot work for various reasons allbeit illness or whatever, that they need to support themselves?
 
No, where did you get that???????

But whoever has those kids with "problems" should take care of those problems on their own! It's not society's kid, it's their kid.

Baron Max


Well, society benefits from people having children.
If people have problems resulting from a disabled child, shouldn't they expect some help.
Isn't that just fair?
 
Well, society benefits from people having children.
If people have problems resulting from a disabled child, shouldn't they expect some help.
Isn't that just fair?

in barons case no its not, we should kill them all and be away with them!!

personally if you have problems with a disabled child then you should be able to get help. what are people like Bernardos, and certain other goverment bodies there for?
 
compulsory child insurance for all those intending on having children.

if they have children and don't have insurance then they get nothing.

the ultimate user pays society like the republican party wish to have.

we should not have any over population problems in the west because the average person cant afford to have kids and pay for their education.


given the fact that a child with learning disabilities or some type of illness/birth defect costs many times more and the family can never afford to pay for it the community must pay through tax.

how can you claim ownership of something that other people are paying to support ?


socialism

we in the UK pay taxes to help if this ever happens, we pay for the medical support. and for the record no child should be left behind, if we pay taxes to give us help when we need it then thats fine
 
to a certain degree you are right, however the child needs an education.

Education for what purpose? If the kids are normal enough to be educated and live normal lives, then those are NOT the kids I'm talking about. I'm talking about grossly disabled and/or mentally retarded.

....people who are unempolyed, or cannot work for various reasons allbeit illness or whatever, that they need to support themselves?

Charities. It's not the government's task to care for any and all kids or anyone else. Gov is for the COMMON good, not for individuals!

Baron Max
 
Education for what purpose? If the kids are normal enough to be educated and live normal lives, then those are NOT the kids I'm talking about. I'm talking about grossly disabled and/or mentally retarded.



Charities. It's not the government's task to care for any and all kids or anyone else. Gov is for the COMMON good, not for individuals!

Baron Max

we pay taxes max just in case we are made unemployed and i owe you an apologie, i thought you were talking about every disabled child, from severe disabilties and mental disabilities, some kids though with certain illnesses can have a good education and make somthing of themselves
 
... If people have problems resulting from a disabled child, shouldn't they expect some help. Isn't that just fair?

They should get exactly the same "help" as every other kid in the society. If they need more, there are charities for that purpose. But it's NOT the responsibility of the gov ......that's for COMMON good, not individuals.

Baron Max
 
They should get exactly the same "help" as every other kid in the society. If they need more, there are charities for that purpose. But it's NOT the responsibility of the gov ......that's for COMMON good, not individuals.

Baron Max

then i want all the taxes i have paid back because i dont want to look after the common good just my family? is that right?
 
then i want all the taxes i have paid back because i dont want to look after the common good just my family? is that right?

Nope, you don't have that choice ...you're a member of that society whether you like it or not. If you want to move to Iran or Afghanistan, then you can probably do it, but....

Hey, LA, what do you think the Afghans do with disabled and/or mentally retarded kids?

Baron Max
 
Nope, you don't have that choice ...you're a member of that society whether you like it or not. If you want to move to Iran or Afghanistan, then you can probably do it, but....

Hey, LA, what do you think the Afghans do with disabled and/or mentally retarded kids?

Baron Max

they probably do what Hitler did with disabled children, i dont know for sure, however who has the right to be judge jury and execuntioner?

i do however agree that people should look after they're children, allbeit disabled or not.

I personally dont want my taxes to go to young mothers who go out just to get pregnant to have children but thats life, i have to deal with it
 
They should get exactly the same "help" as every other kid in the society. If they need more, there are charities for that purpose. But it's NOT the responsibility of the gov ......that's for COMMON good, not individuals.

Baron Max


When the Government acts, it acts in the COMMON good, but every time it acts it acts to help individuals.
Some people need more help than others, some need no help at all.
Some need no help and like to help others without the Government.
That's charity.
 
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When the Government acts, it acts in the COMMON good, but every time it acts it acts to help individuals.

Nope, that's simply not true. In fact, it's your silly play on words ONLY ...and is meaningless in the true sense of government actions.

Some people need more help than others, some need no help at all.

Sould make no difference as far as the gov money is concerned. The gov is not a charity, it should give money to the entire group, not to individuals according to some silly measure of "need".

Some need no help and like to help others without the Government. That's charity.

The government is NOT a charity, and should NEVER been taken as one. And yet, so many of y'all here seem to feel that the gov should be an active charity!!

Baron Max
 
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