Cris said:Or it could come from a desire to stay alive; fear is not a necessary factor. You also imply there is something good about natural processes and that we must accept them. I don’t agree. Nature is something imposed on us that we do not have to accept willingly.
Again you imply that natural is good and we must take a defeatist attitude. You are displaying the very apathy that comes from religious conditioning. Aging is a disease like any other and we should address it as such with appropriate disdain. And nature is a largely random and uncontrolled process that we should learn to control and manipulate for our own benefit.
I can’t see that the terms “fear” or “love” in this context are applicable to me. Life is preferable to death, so why would one ever willingly accept the least preferable option? This is simply a matter of logic.
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This is a classic example of ego at work. It wants to live for ever and wont accept its own mortality - but it wont accept that anything else can help it with that except itself.
In truth nothing can help it. The ego does die with the body. But the real self continues.
The ego will hold itself up as god and master of life, but this is not the case. The work of the spiritual masters of the ages has been in defeating the human ego.
(please dont take this as a personal insult chris - it is not intended that way)