Before the attack on Iraq, Bush sold the idea that Americans should be afraid for their safety if we didn't attack Iraq. He is selling the same idea with Iran. Fear of something happening to us is leading us to lethal attacks against people who can't even substantially harm us if we leave them to do whatever the hell they want.
Wimpish Society
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timmbuktwo
Registered Senior Member
How long did it take Roosevelt to act ? Only after being hit on his own turf. But that's always the problem isn't it. Act early, or pro-actively, and the people will think you're the agressor, the villain, bothering peace loving farmers in desert land. Act late , and/or too late, and you're the asshole that should have known what was comming , and you'll get crucified.
You made my day!!! 
Obviously you didn't click on the provided link, so here it is:
"The 'quarterlife crisis' (QLC) is a term applied to the period of life immediately following the major changes of adolescence, usually ranging from the ages of 21 - 29. The term is named by analogy with mid-life crisis. It is now recognised by many therapists and professionals in the mental health field. Abby Wilner coined the phrase in 1997 and, with Alexandra Robbins, co-authored the first book to identify this phenomenon: 'Quarterlife Crisis, the Unique Challenges of Life in your' (Tarcher, 2001). Across the Atlantic, Damian Barr wrote the first book offering practical solutions based on extensive peer research: 'Get It Together: A Guide to Surviving Your Quarterlife Crisis' (Hodder, 2004). The phenomenon has been identified in Japan as 'freeter'. A number of other books on the quarterlife phenomenon have since been written in different countries."
If you want the more entertaining version, watch the Broadway musical: Avenue Q....
Obviously you didn't click on the provided link, so here it is:
"The 'quarterlife crisis' (QLC) is a term applied to the period of life immediately following the major changes of adolescence, usually ranging from the ages of 21 - 29. The term is named by analogy with mid-life crisis. It is now recognised by many therapists and professionals in the mental health field. Abby Wilner coined the phrase in 1997 and, with Alexandra Robbins, co-authored the first book to identify this phenomenon: 'Quarterlife Crisis, the Unique Challenges of Life in your' (Tarcher, 2001). Across the Atlantic, Damian Barr wrote the first book offering practical solutions based on extensive peer research: 'Get It Together: A Guide to Surviving Your Quarterlife Crisis' (Hodder, 2004). The phenomenon has been identified in Japan as 'freeter'. A number of other books on the quarterlife phenomenon have since been written in different countries."
If you want the more entertaining version, watch the Broadway musical: Avenue Q....
That was exactly my point. That's why we compare relative numbers (%) instead of absolute numbers...
People focus, we are getting offtopic here. Just for the record, Roosvelt wanted war and knew about the upcoming attack, but you didn't hear this from me...
If you guys want me I will write a nice list of whimpiness tomorrow, soyou can check if you belong to the whiny-pussy generation or not...
timmbuktwo
Registered Senior Member
would love to see it , and see where fraggle and iams stand!
ripleofdeath
Registered Senior Member
Today's society has gotten to be such a "wimpish" existence. I hear all the time on how horrible the Iraqi conflict is. I don't agree with it in the least and I sure don't like seeing Americans dying for nothing, but my point is a few soldiers are killed in a conflict and society has a conniption. In past wars, a few soldiers dying was nothing, compared to the thousands that were killed. I can't imagine how society would react if there was a battle like Gettysburg where tens of thousands were killed in a few days.
Another thing I see is how children are being raised. My God, some of the crap parents yell about is pathetic. One instance is where a lot of schools are now banning games such as dodge ball and swings because kids have gotten hurt. Big deal! We got hurt growing up. The wound healed and we went on. It is so pathetic that it is laughable. I'll probably live just past the mid-part of this century and I can't imagine what those generations are going to be like.
you have a good point there Mick.
what i have theorised for the last few years when i started to notice the shift is;
the possibility of this type of nurturing spawning pathalogical habituation.
# note "habituation".
My personal opinion as usual is a little to complex and drawn out for me to type, and will no doubt raise issues that some will wish to disect endlesly to a point that simply distracts from the topic at hand.
my basic thesis is (loosly termed)
the more cotton wool wrapped children are the less empathic they become and the more sadistic (note sadistic in event not in actual conscience descision to inflict pain, although a larger amount are likely to be that way programmed beyond any complete re programming[reversal therapy] point).
there is also a dramatic shift in the relationship between self and cause and effect.
the actual point of self awarenes and the relative interaction with the outside world in general.
hopefully as psychology advances and more importance is placed on the "type and content" of schooling this will be addressed.
the question remains however, how will society cope with the inbetween period where there will be an onflow effect into society ?
as for the nuke issue, i generaly tend to think none of the world leaders will ever use them as first strike because of the fact that they will be historicaly scarred and thus cast into a position in the wortld which WILL mark them down in history, BUT will mark them down as the society that everyone wishes to erase and forget about.
not only would it be economical suicide it would be cultural suicide and probable religous suicide for the incumbent religous state that is aligned with the leadership.
(thats my general opinion)
Did you know that while wearing sunscreen decreases your risk of skin cancer (an easily diagnosed and treated condition), it increases your risk of all other cancers due to vitamin D deficiency? And the other cancers tend to be more deadly since they're not right there on your skin where you can see them.
Inaccurate
I am not sure what you are trying to tell me beside that you don't know basic math.
Thank you Max for the argument, finally we are on the same side.
I definitely agree with you. I believe that both safety and luxury have their place, but a thinking man keeps them in their place.
OK, guys here is a quick but incomplete checklist in the style of Jeff Foxworthy's You might be a redneck... Of course not all of these have to apply, but you will get the idea:
If you regularly carry a water bottle....you might be wimpy.
If you asked for a ride on a sunny day, although it was a 5 mins downhill walk...you might be wimpy.
If you say "It wasn't my fault.." more than twice annually, you might be wimpy.
If you lost something valuable and your parents replaced it immediatelly without punisihing you,you might be wimpy.
If you never worked a physical job for longer than 6 hours, you might be wimpy.
If your grades sucked but you got nice birthday/Christmas presents anyway, you might be wimpy.
If you have been told regularly "Everybody is a winner..", you might be wimpy.
If you have no or just little chores around the house, you might be wimpy.
If you regularly use the words "It is too hard..." as an excuse, you might be wimpy.
If you long to go back to school of previous years, you might be wimpy.
If you can't take valid criticism, you might be wimpy.
If your teacher marked your grades in black instead of red, you might be wimpy.
If you were never left behind although you should have been, you might be wimpy.
If you don't have to walk more than 5 mins from house to school, you might be wimpy.
If you were ever excused from dodgeball, you might be wimpy.
If you are 25 and still living with your parents, you might be wimpy.
If more than 50% of the above applies to you, you ARE the whiny-pussy generation!!!
If you regularly carry a water bottle....you might be wimpy.
If you asked for a ride on a sunny day, although it was a 5 mins downhill walk...you might be wimpy.
If you say "It wasn't my fault.." more than twice annually, you might be wimpy.
If you lost something valuable and your parents replaced it immediatelly without punisihing you,you might be wimpy.
If you never worked a physical job for longer than 6 hours, you might be wimpy.
If your grades sucked but you got nice birthday/Christmas presents anyway, you might be wimpy.
If you have been told regularly "Everybody is a winner..", you might be wimpy.
If you have no or just little chores around the house, you might be wimpy.
If you regularly use the words "It is too hard..." as an excuse, you might be wimpy.
If you long to go back to school of previous years, you might be wimpy.
If you can't take valid criticism, you might be wimpy.
If your teacher marked your grades in black instead of red, you might be wimpy.
If you were never left behind although you should have been, you might be wimpy.
If you don't have to walk more than 5 mins from house to school, you might be wimpy.
If you were ever excused from dodgeball, you might be wimpy.
If you are 25 and still living with your parents, you might be wimpy.
If more than 50% of the above applies to you, you ARE the whiny-pussy generation!!!
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timmbuktwo
Registered Senior Member
I'm glad and proud to say i'm 0, yes 0% on this scales. thanks for posting it.
timmbuktwo
Registered Senior Member
and when one feels the need for better protection and governance about something that has been happening for 3 millenia wothout fail , "just in case."
Fraggle Rocker
Staff member
No, Max. Only you "know" this. The rest of us "know" that you are a lovable throwback to the Stone Age who talks like old codgers have always talked. The world is changing because we, human beings, have changed it. It's incumbent upon us to adapt to the world we have made. That includes not being so focused on competing with each other--for jobs, money or women--as well as mastering the discipline of risk management. Risk management is a new discipline and we're not doing very well, but we'll figure it out. We've gone way too far in one direction and this will be corrected before long, like our wacky trends always are.
My generation had to do these awful exercises called "knee bends" in this compulsory class we used to have in school called "P.E." It turns out that knee bends are the worst thing you can do to your knees and sure enough, we've all got knee problems in our old age. We're just having to put up with it. The kids who have to wear helmets while playing tag and a life vest on the toilet will have to put up with what it has done to them. They'll muddle through and correct the errors in America's style of childrearing when they become parents.
Bells
Staff member
Heh!
Still not an excuse to not use sunscreen however. You only need a couple of minutes of bright sunlight to provide the required amount of vitamin D.
As for your comments about skin cancer being easily diagnosed and treatable. It might be one of the most preventable forms of cancers, but I doubt it is so easily treatable. If that were the case, then there would not be over 66,000 deaths from skin cancers.Link
Skin cancers are only easily diagnosed if the individual is wary and alert to all the minute changes that occur on their skin. For example regular skin checks by a professional is essential. They must also be aware of every mole or natural marking on their body and watch for any changes that may occur (something that can be difficult if the mole is in amongst their hair, genitalia, behind or in their ears, on their backs, and other places that are not easily examined by the individual). Now how many people do you know who get their skin checked on a regular basis and who know what to look out for to seek a professional opinion if something odd is noticed with a mole for example?