Inaccurate. I view eternal existence from an understanding of me - what I would or would not desire. I Do not want an eternal existence. If I'm not me then it wont really matter.
Sure, and likewise if one is perfectly happy, there could still be parts of him that are not perfect, but clearly they do not affect his happiness. Perfect happiness therefore is clearly attainable given my earlier statements.
Who mentioned anything about the be all and end all? You're trying to sidestep the point. This man has perfect teeth, but he doesn't have perfect ears. Likewise another man is perfectly happy but doesn't have perfect teeth. His happiness however is not affected by his imperfect teeth. You have even stated "correct" when I mention that perfect happiness is merely a lack of unhappiness. I am currently perfectly happy - and have therefore attained that which you claim is unattainable.
A pointless statement. A lack of cavities does not make teeth perfect. They can still be yellow, crooked, large gaps in between etc etc. I am wondering why you would even espouse that perfect teeth come from merely lacking cavities. It seems you have a very narrow idea of perfection.
Are you trying to project your feelings on to me? I have no such worry here.
Not really. Again this is a problem with you being unable to see greys. I did indeed mention that it was one such example, but I would advise you not get stuck with "be all and end all". One cited reason is not that.
So, someone doesn't get punished twice?
Justify this statement. How is being a dog a punishment?
Why do you think humans have such an obligation but then no longer have that obligation when they're punished for not fulfilling that obligation?
Animals don't tend to own credit cards or money and so trying to fine them would be a bit pointless. However, they can be caged for jay walking.
Justify this statement.
I disagree. Of course you're asking a human to say how a human would feel about bum sniffing. Dogs certainly seem to enjoy it, and by the fact that they enjoy it, one could hardly call it a punishment. But honestly, what harm does it do? What does the dog learn that it can carry on into it's next life given that when it dies and reincarnates it wont ever remember having been a bum sniffer? Do they perhaps end up like you, hating dogs because they've been there 1000 times before although not knowing why they hate them?
And that does what exactly?
I will apparently be a dog at the time: ignorant of everything, no obligations to fulfill..
The collected intellect of all your gods and this was what they came up with? Turn a man into an animal with no intelligence and let him sniff his bum? Do me a lemon.
No I was asking for make-believe evidence. Figure it out.
So.. Basically it comes down to "I am a fool because some ancient pakistani says so". Sorry LG, where's the difference? I mean c'mon, in every single post you've ever made, in every single discussion we've ever had all you have done is said "this is true because I say so.. because some ancient pakistani says so". I can smell the hypocrisy from here.
Your quote was written by some Indian bloke who ate curry, masturbated on Tuesdays and picked his nose. Why should I take his word as truth? Why does his word have any value to anything? He's right because he says so?
I don't quite get what you're trying to claim but I would ask that you substantiate it with a little more than "it's true because I say so".
Well then it's lucky so many humans have failed to cultivate their spiritual side. If humans were actually doing things the right way the world population would be... what.. hmm. How many billions upon billions of ants are there? I don't think we'd all fit to be honest.
No but that's of no relevance to my statement.
Same reason they would hold Winnie the Pooh as valuable.
Or perhaps, and more likely, the fool is the person that believes the words of ancient pakistanis on the basis that "he says its true so it is".
That's your entire argument in every discussion we've ever had, (as highlighted earlier). I merely asked if you've met the dudes. Have you? <-- the '?' indicates a question. It only requires a yes or no answer.
"normal" to who? And by what authority do you consider what you think is 'normal' is the way things should be or that you are better than these people? With 30 minutes digging into your personal life I guarantee you I could find something you do that is not 'normal'.
Not at all, or are you saying that hitting oneself with a hammer is against gods laws or for the stupid? Look at the absolute success of Jackass. It takes intelligence to get where he has even though he's hit himself with a hammer quite a few times. Anyway, is hitting yourself with a hammer against gods commands? If not it is irrelevant.
So... hitting oneself with a hammer is against god's laws? If not, your statement is irrelevant. So, you can't have sex with animals.. god said so. He didn't say the same about having sex with children.
Sure, but their house is a lot smaller. Of course, we're actually talking about building a house. I have seen a house built from scratch in a little over a month.
From whence did this material desire appear.. Who created it? Answer the question. The same goes with your bamboo nonsense. Who created material desire in humankind?
Instead of attempting to avoid what is said in preference of your petty little worthless remarks how about you actually point out what you have specific issue with in my statement, why you didn't answer the questions posed, (which should be easy for someone as great as you), and then tell me whether I should chop a bit of my penis off or put a red splodge on my head.
Well, whoever provides the evidence first gets my vote.
The fact that you keep avoiding the questions in preference of trying to sidestep them by attacking the poster instead of the post indicates that you have no understanding of how to conduct a discussion and most likely are simply incapable of responding to the post because you realise your entire argument would fall apart. Now, it was a question - not a statement. Tell me, which one of those claimed omnimax beings that are contradictory to each other is the real one?
Oh I see, so we can ignore your gods because their rules etc were written millennia ago?
I see. So it kinda evolves or changes like Dr Who? As that is the case, surely the correct thing to do is to follow the newest god incarnation. The god is no longer a blue elephant headed weirdo that makes you reincarnate as a dog. He is now someone and something else - jesus perhaps? (is there a more modern incarnation perhaps)?
yhwh/vishnu/allah.. How do you eat yours? So tell me.. on what authority would you choose vishnu over yhwh? By choosing one over the other, what does it say about the other?
Answer it.
And you have a bunch of people that aren't showing service to him so then he can kill them if he so chooses. Once again: Justify your statement. Kindly show me any law that states that god must like anyone, cannot choose to kill a specific group of humans etc.
I asked a question, I didn't make a statement. I said; What rule exactly states that gods must be any different. In the discussion I have seen you state that a god wouldn't kill a bunch of people and any that did isn't an omnimax god. I have since inquired why a god cannot kill a race of people. Your response was simply "why would he". Now, it stands that we are made in gods image, he has the whole range of human emotions, (or we have the whole range of god emotions) such as jealousy, anger, wrath and whatnot, has feet, arms, (6 lol), a head, (elephant lol), with eyes and ears and all in all aside from a couple of omnis, is largely similar to humans. The important one here is the emotions. If this being gets angry why do you claim he cannot kill a race of people?
Call my office. We need to clear up these stinkiness/embarrassment feelings you have.
No reason heh? That's not what you've been alluding to in this entire discussion. With so many dogs and animals in existence it would seem that humans are a real disaster at finding spirituality/gods. All the leukemia victims - punished by your gods, all the other disease victims etc etc. All punishmends from your gods. Now, why is there "no reason"? Don't forget it's only temporary and I'm sure all these people will learn something from being killed.
Take into account for future reference that you stated that if a god killed a race that he wouldn't be god. Here you are going against that. He would remain a god but would actually have a reason to, (ergo the entire race needed punishment).
There it is again. There are sprays on the market that can improve how you smell. All is not lost. Call me if you need further assistance.
Come again? Clearly they don't, they are brought up time and time again by people all over the world. Oh wait, everyone else is wrong, you're right.. because you say so.
Right, so a multi-million pound singer is like the same as a god? Oh and there you were arguing so well about how a god wont be like a human.
Given the figures, clearly not.
Let's try again: If a jew tells you that you not having chopped a bit of your penis off is a punishable sin.. on what grounds would you demand he support the claim? When he does support the claim, (biblically), what is your excuse?
Right, and god said it was essential. Need I dig up passages? So.. why don't you do it? Why instead do you choose to sin? (under the basis that you have one to chop)
We've been down this road and it leads nowhere. Still, although I never got an answer, give me the exact process and we'll go from there.
We'll get to that once you answer the question. Have you met your god/s?
And then that 12 year old would still lack evidence to suggest that [whatever] exists and thus it would be illogical for him to just believe it to be true. However, you could generally provide that evidence.. Gravity? Drop an apple.
Then it's hardly the persons fault that they're living an illusion.
Who made such a claim? However, it's astoundingly obvious that I am far better versed in biblical understanding than you are, (which is not surprising given that you're into different gods). Now, because you think you know that chopping a bit of your penis is a not essential endeavour, regardless to gods law that states the opposite.. The question should be aimed back at you.
Yeah, the common link is that you like to avoid questions that you clearly cannot answer.
