The 'fringe' sections are no more off-topic than the political fora where several of the board's moderators seem to spend most of their time.
At least the fringe sections address interesting questions about the definition and boundaries of science. (What is science, what is pseudoscience and what's the distinction between them?) They raise interesting questions about evidence and about how beliefs are justified. And they raise questions about the role of preexisting metaphysical assumptions in accepting or rejecting hypotheses.
And that in and of itself is perfectly fine - the problem I have with it is when said people demand an untenable level of evidence from those attempting to provide more mundane explanations whilst providing virtually no evidence for a paranormal explanation beyond "Because I said so". That's just not how rational discourse works.
Aye... or, rather, the owners/admins need to do so - we mods don't seem to get much say in that (at least from my perspective)The thing is, you guys still need to decide what kind of science board you want Sciforums to be.
Which is certainly fine - again, my biggest complaint (and what I made an earnest attempt to enforce, until I was told not to any longer) was to enforce reasonable requirements for evidence and/or fact checking. If we are going to hold certain members to a standard, and then give other members a pass on said standard... well, what good does that do?Do you really expect it to be a shop-talk board for working scientists? I don't think that's realistic.
Do you expect it to be a board for university students in the sciences? To attract them, it probably needs to be talking about the kinds of problems that undergraduates will see on their exams. So who is going to play the professor, post problems and provide guidance in answering them?
Or do you expect Sciforums to be a place for interested laypeople to talk about science. That's what it is now.
Should Sciforums be a news-board, consisting of posts about science news? Would that motivate new people to sign up and post their own views, if any? Why would people visit Sciforums just to read the news instead of visiting some science news website?
In my opinion, in order to get new people to post, there needs to be some drama. There needs to be some controversy. The board has to arouse people enough that they feel like weighing in on one side or another with their own opinions. And the arguments have to be happening at a technical level where laypeople aren't frightened off.
I agree with that idea.
Perhaps those individuals deserve some thanks for keeping things lively.
I'm still not sure what the phrase "scientific discussion" even means for laypeople. What are people untrained in the sciences supposed to say about science?
Even a layperson can form competent and well formulated arguments, and one does not have to be an expert on a subject to discuss it; I, for example, am no expert in quantum mechanics, yet the subject fascinates me. The thing is, I know well enough to know when to sit quietly and learn from those more well versed in a subject and how to interject questions to further my understanding.
Again, my big issue is when people try to pass off flights of fancy as fact and make extraordinary claims with nearly zero supporting evidence, and then get bent out of shape when they are challenged on it. "Scientific discussion", simply put, would entail good fact checking and at least a casual attempt at supporting evidence.