Does the possibility that life has no meaning, bother you?

and what fortunate luck i found some old antibiotics of the same type left over from some months back which i can extend my coarse with without having to pay for another doctor visit
After a course of antibiotics you should not have any left

Any left you have not taken a full course

Also some months back might mean not our of date :(

:(
 
After a course of antibiotics you should not have any left

Any left you have not taken a full course

Also some months back might mean not our of date :(

:(

thanks for your concern, i got extra last time because i had to go extra time.
i got a cold infection on top of a bacterial sinus infection
after i had almost finished the coarse, which set me back to nearly he beginning, the doctor gave me extra as i asked.
my GP knows me well & for many years & trusts me with meds no problem.
i ask if i dont know & follow advice & do my own reading where i dont know things and should know.
so i got almost a week extra just i case on top of 1.5 times the average duration.

i share facilities with someone who is really poor at hand washing and only showers about once every 2 or 3 days and sticks their finger in their mouth like thumb sucking & touches things.
i also work with a wide range of people(door handles keyboards elevator buttons etc etc), some of which are very anti hygiene & do some very disgusting habits.
so i am needing to be constantly aware.


i appreciate your advice :)

life(viral & bacterial) on other surfaces

i watched a person standing in a shared business facility kitchen lunch room
using a microwave heating their lunch, picking their nose then touching the microwave
their employment may become unstable
i am unsure
i am more inclined to seek them to change their personal habits
they maybe resistant
a word in the right ear is likely to result in them being short listed for being asked to leave.
so i am mindful of potentially destroying someones career.


i have a very low tolerance for such poor personal hygiene


their skill set is in high demand and they socially fit very well
so it will be a hard exit in that case if it is an exit or pushed
depending on who i talk to.
softly back channel approach is my 1st option which has already happened & they are not the only one who has performed such an act breaching health & safety regulations.
i know there would be 1 or 2 people who might jump at the chance of seeing them forced out
so i must be mindful of that.
rare are things so black or white

lucky for them i am not a power tripper type of personality or racist, like so many other people are
 
Last edited:
I'm going to take a wild guess he was a Christian of some flavour

And speculate if he was another religion which believes in afterlife he would be preaching about meeting THAT religion's god

Funny / strange / weird how that works

Does this funny / strange / weird warrant a finger tips together in a arch pose? or rubbing hands together in a twisting motion pose?

:)


True... but it was interesting that after his brush with death he felt that he had to resign as a qualified minister of the church that he was involved in and he became a Professor of English so that he would be free to research that type of information with more freedom.

Background to The Thomas Book
©by Bruce Fraser MacDonald, PhD 2011
After a fall down a 37 foot shaft on a construction site in June, 1966, which led to a seven month stay in hospital, I had a Near Death Experience in which I met Jesus, Elijah and Moses before being given the choice to stay on the other side or return to life in my badly smashed up body.

I decided to return, and brought back with me a strange conviction, that I could no longer be a minister in the United Church of Canada (as I had intended) because there was something terribly wrong with the Gospel stories in the Bible and I had to discover what the difficulty was.

My quest, after the seven months of treatment for a broken back and badly damaged internal organs, involved returning to university and completing a BA, MA and PhD in preparation for a university teaching and research career.

I was Professor of English at Luther College, University of Regina, in Saskatchewan, Canada, in 1980 when I started an intense program of meditation directed at healing cancer and persistent severe back pain. When I was successful at healing both of those conditions, I decided to use meditation to further my spiritual explorations. In course of time I met Jesus again in my inner being during meditation, similar to the way I had seen him during the Near Death Experience. Following that meeting, almost every evening, when I entered into the Silence, he gave me teachings which I wrote in my journal.

http://www.thomastwin.com/6 A Thomas background.html
 
let me just say 1st so there is no mistake
i respect your chosen spirituality
in what ever form you define it.

from my limited reading NDE has evidence based on things that are provable and the person was unable to attain.

there is some conjecture i have read about things like certain people having occurances.
one case with vague memory is the patient detailing another person in another adjacent room
there was no contact and the person was able to give details only known to the individual & some other clinical staff

this is a VERY rare occurrence and was a form of possible proof of some type of thing happening.

if as you say, you are very interested in this subject of NDE then you should familiarize yourself with those few encounters which have some form of scientific proof around them and look at those.

there is a few more in india where the belief is more widely accepted, however most information is word of mouth from people who WANT to believe so is unable to be accurately documented.

the believer wants to believe, the scientist wants to provide facts.
pain meds kicking in nicely excuse typos(low dose fyi combined with antibiotics)

and what fortunate luck i found some old antibiotics of the same type left over from some months back which i can extend my coarse with without having to pay for another doctor visit


Good points...... Operation Standstill may be one of the cases that would tend to most impress a scientist.

People Have Near-Death Experiences While Brain Dead Kevin Williams
 
Why?

so - he would be free - research - type - information - more freedom.

should be a clue (explnation) as why NOT interesting



While Brain Dead IS DEAD

People do not return from brain dead to give accounts of experiences

:)

Exactly... so Operation Standstill and the NDE of Ms. Pam Reynolds is especially significant......

https://www.near-death.com/science/evidence/people-have-ndes-while-brain-dead.html

People Have Near-Death Experiences While Brain DeadKevin Williams
michael_sabom_new_01.jpg
pam_reynolds_new_02.jpg
Dr. Michael Sabom is a cardiologist whose book entitled Light and Death includes a detailed medical and scientific analysis of an amazing near-death experience (NDE) of a woman named Pam Reynolds (1956--2010). In 1991, at the age of 35, Reynolds underwent a rare operation to remove a giant basilar artery aneurysm in her brain that threatened her life. The size and location of the aneurysm, however, precluded its safe removal using the standard neuro-surgical techniques. She was referred to a neurosurgeon, Dr. Robert F. Spetzler, of the Barrow Neurological Institute in Phoenix, Arizona, who had pioneered a daring surgical procedure known as deep hypothermic cardiac arrest. It allowed Pam's aneurysm to be excised with a reasonable chance of success. This operation, nicknamed "standstill" by the doctors who perform it, required that Pam's body temperature be lowered to 60 degrees, her heartbeat and breathing stopped, her brain waves flattened, and the blood drained from her head. In everyday terms, she was put to death. After removing the aneurysm, she was restored to life. During the time that Pam was in standstill, she experienced an NDE. Her remarkably detailed veridical (i.e., verified) out-of-body observations during her surgery were later verified to be true. Her case is considered to be one of the strongest cases of veridical evidence in NDE research because of her ability to describe the unique surgical instruments, the surgical procedures used on her, and her ability to describe in detail these events while she was clinically brain dead. Pam Reynolds Lowery ultimately died from heart failure, on Saturday May 22, 2010, at the age 53.

Table of Contents
1.Pam Reynolds' Surgery and Near-Death Experience
2.About the State of Pam Reynolds' Brain Death
3.The Pam Reynolds' Debate in the Journal of Near-Death Studies
4.More Links to Articles Related to the Veridical Perception Debate
5.The Case Against Keith Augustine's "Internet Infidels"
a.Against Keith Augustine's Naturalism
b.Against Keith Augustine's "Myth of an Afterlife"
Return to Top
1. Pam Reynolds' Surgery and Near-Death Experience
 
People Have Near-Death Experiences While Brain Dead Kevin Williams

While Brain Dead IS DEAD

People do not return from brain dead to give accounts of experiences

Re top section

What part of While Brain Dead IS DEAD did you not understand?

Only 8 words, set out, I thought, in a pithy manner, not subject to misinterpretation

Care to explain why you went with some long winded what ever it is / was (hint I didn't read)?

:)
 
People Have Near-Death Experiences While Brain Dead Kevin Williams



Re top section

What part of While Brain Dead IS DEAD do you not in?

Only 8 words set out, I thought, in a pithy manner, not subject to misinterpretation

Care to explain why you went with some long winded what ever it is / was (hint I didn't read)?

:)

Did you read what she reported viewing while she was brain dead?

I am of the belief... and I am not alone... that consciousness is NOT LIMITED to the brain......
that is an archaic and false belief that in 2021 should be laid to rest and buried.
 
Did you read what she reported viewing while she was brain dead?

I am of the belief... and I am not alone... that consciousness is NOT LIMITED to the brain......
that is an archaic and false belief that in 2021 should be laid to rest and buried.

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

That's me backing up. You have gone over the edge and I have no intention of following

Take a rest in the Iggy room and perhaps if I see something close to being reasonable ? ? ? ? ? ?

IGGY READY CAPTAIN
Make it so.jpg
Image - meme generator
(CLICK)
 
Last edited:
Not at all. I have had the job doing the work I love to do, and I always have felt I have been paid to have fun. I feel free to do what I want to do and to have what I want to have, and still am happy without the things I do not have. To me this life is enough, I'm happy and satisfied to have lived this life, no need to wish something else.

Same as stars die, birds die, plants die, this experience called life someday will have an end for me, I was not the happiest man in the world, but when I use the scale I think it was not "that bad" and I did my part, serving others with my work, bringing new "mini-mees" to the world, and today you have me here visiting and bothering you with my postings.

And if there is a purpose in life and I missed it, so be it, no one will take from me what I have danced.
 
Not at all. I have had the job doing the work I love to do, and I always have felt I have been paid to have fun. I feel free to do what I want to do and to have what I want to have, and still am happy without the things I do not have. To me this life is enough, I'm happy and satisfied to have lived this life, no need to wish something else.

Same as stars die, birds die, plants die, this experience called life someday will have an end for me, I was not the happiest man in the world, but when I use the scale I think it was not "that bad" and I did my part, serving others with my work, bringing new "mini-mees" to the world, and today you have me here visiting and bothering you with my postings.

And if there is a purpose in life and I missed it, so be it, no one will take from me what I have danced.


A Dr. Masaru Emoto did some unusual research on blasting water with words and he got some really unusual results with the words "love" and "gratefulness."

I regard my job as a janitor as kind of perfect for me because it gives me an eight hour work out five days per week that I need......
and since I rarely ever bother going to a gym to work out.....
my being paid to work out is kind of perfect for me........

My freedom to do a lot of online posting in my free time seems like a great privilege to me....
I feel that my life is blessed far, far, far, far beyond most of the extreme wealthy or even the monarchs of two, three, five or ten centuries in the past.

Life in Canada in 2021 is amazingly good, for myself anyway!

Had to come for a visit just for this

View attachment 4000

NT News newspaper Darwin Australia 23 Mar 2021

:)


Yes.... it sure does seem as if Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan has to take calls from "Above" and has to send people back when he is ordered to do so..... or.... as in the case with Job......
Satan is not even permitted to induce a full fledged NDE just because he might think that the experience might be good for someoby?!


https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/ot/job/1?lang=eng

7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going ato and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

8 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my aservant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

9 Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

10 Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land.

11 But put forth thine ahand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will bcurse thee to thy face.

12 And the Lord said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy apower; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the Lord.
 
A Dr. Masaru Emoto did some unusual research on blasting water with words and he got some really unusual results with the words "love" and "gratefulness."

I regard my job as a janitor as kind of perfect for me because it gives me an eight hour work out five days per week that I need......
and since I rarely ever bother going to a gym to work out.....
my being paid to work out is kind of perfect for me........

My freedom to do a lot of online posting in my free time seems like a great privilege to me....
I feel that my life is blessed far, far, far, far beyond most of the extreme wealthy or even the monarchs of two, three, five or ten centuries in the past.

Life in Canada in 2021 is amazingly good, for myself anyway!

I like your enthusiasm for life, Dennis - and you seem to be at peace. :smile:
 
Does the possibility that life has no meaning, bother you?

Why isn't the title of this thread

Does the certainty that life has no meaning, bother you?

For me more realistic question. Anyway answer to both versions

NO

:)
 
For me the question should be "Why would one expect "life" to have some inherent meaning anymore than we would expect a rock to have meaning?" but that doesn't exactly flow from the tongue so well does it?

Our life should have plenty of meaning to us. It is what you make it of it.

I'll ask another question..."Why do we sometimes ask questions when we don't really want to hear the answers?"

For instance, everyone seems to have real heartfelt concern for the homeless and yet the more concern a particular community seems to have ... the more homelessness they have. That's because, IMO, the more concerned people are about homelessness, the less they are willing to do something about it.

The answer isn't to try to build free housing for everyone. The answer is to bring back "mental hospitals" or lets call it "mental health facilities" and "drug addiction clinics". That's what has to be addressed to combat homelessness. Without those there is little actual homelessness.

Instead we enact laws where the police can't do anything about it because there are no more loitering laws. People can camp out in the middle of a park or in the middle of the downtown area and no one seemingly can do anything about it.

The reality is that you have to be able to remove vagrants from parks, downtown areas and residential communities for the safety of everyone. You have to be able to confine the mentally ill and the drug addicted or at least those that resort to crime, petty or otherwise.

No one who cares about the homeless problem seems to want to face that reality and therefore the problem goes on.

It's the same with inner city crime. We talk about BLM, and welfare and various social programs but the quicker solution would be to break up the inner cities so that law enforcement can make those areas safe for the majorities who live there and who do no wrong.

You could then bring back the grocery stores and retail employment that exists in other communities. You solve these problems by bringing everyone into mainstream society. You don't do it with policies that just result in more of the same for generation after generation.

People don't really want change they just want to talk about it.
 
Our life should have plenty of meaning to us. It is what you make it of it.

I'm thinking more along the lines of

Why is LIFE ie any PROCESS we classify as LIFE is present

This is a subset of Why is there something instead of nothing?

The difference between LIFE and A life ie the period between being born and dying is A life for sentient entity can be imbued with a meaning (which does NOT translate to giving a meaning to all LIFE forms)

LIFE came to be. After that should be a massive unmovable stone which even god cannot lift. Sure ask questions how LIFE arose? and perhaps we will duplicate a method and produce a life form

No particular reason why a lot of smart people cannot perform the task

:)
 
Back
Top