Extreme Atheism - leads to a Proxy God by default.

You mean human/animal emotions? Read the OT if you want to qualify the nature of God's compassion.

But yes, if you want to assign emotion to God, it is your responsibility to explain how a supernatural entity experiences emotions. What is the mechanism that allows a "mind" to experience emotion?

And is a God able to alter the universal mathematical constants and functions on an emotional whim?
Evidence?

 

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what was your question and how was it relevant to the discussion.
You made a statement and you made a question...
the statement:

the question:

• The statement indicates the limitations of your experience...
• The question is irrelevant to the thread...

So I assumed you may have intended to contribute more and asked you to elaborate...before forming an opinion.

 

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the only math a God of your choosing would use is 0=/=0

 

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In furtherance of post #81
Here are some examp[les of God's love and compassion.

And that's just a sample. https://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html

 

He would? Well, there you have it. God is a mathematician........

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No QQ, a god of my choosing would bear the name "Potential" (That which may become reality). Can you muster an argument against that concept?

 

A good post and thanks for taking the time to do so...
Admittedly the posting of the this thread topic using the wording that I chose was destined to invite controversy.

To state an obvious contradiction "Atheism <=> Proxy God by default" was guaranteed to provoke an immediate reaction, which proved itself by creating two pages of forum "chat" with in about 60 minutes of posting the topic.
It may even bolster forum membership once Google indexes it in the next 12 days or so, hopefully bringing in some good thinkers to improve the intellectual productivity of discussions held here at sciforums.

Imagining a NYT headline : Athiests believe in God, and you get the picture.

Now, we all know how spurious headlines can be but no doubt my last comment will attract those who may seek to defend their position and in doing so only go on to prove the point that scientific fatalism, especially if it includes scientific pre-determinism, leads inexorably to the consequence of a proxy God by default.
There for one could easily extend the logic and consider that Extreme Atheism is in fact a religion of a monotheistic kind with out the extreme atheist realizing it.

One only needs to ask them one specific question :

What is responsible for all of human suffering?

And the muted silence of their response is deafening.

 

And you think that's a positive concept?

 

HUMANS!

 

you have no idea of just how much potential there is in a paradox do you?
0=/=0 is what makes this universe come into existence....
because existence is attempting to solve the unsolvable paradox.

oops, did I just let the cat out of the bag ?

please ignore the above and consider it as utter nonsense.

 

If humans have no responsibility for their actions due to fatalism, religious or scientific, then how can you blame humans?
No freewill, no self determination and bingo the universe is suddenly responsible, which makes the universe what?

 

if it leads the atheist into deeper understanding of his beliefs then sure, it's a positive step...

 

Apparently you have no idea of the implications contained in the word potential.
It is one of the most profound scientific concepts in all of science.

While not all potential becomes reality, all reality is, was, and will be preceded by potential.

 

and then apparently God matured and gave humanity his only son to redeem them of the crimes he himself set an example to....according to some...
The Christ was more about redeeming the Father than about redeeming humanity some theologists would argue.
It amazes me that people will use the old testament and conveniently ignore the evolution towards Christianity.
Christianity is about the new testament not just about the Old testament... ( there is no Christ in the Old testament.)

 

I couldn't agree more....
The potential of 0=/=o is the key to exnihilo

 

What beliefs? In God?
Have you been listening?

Are you asserting that atheists are incapable of deeper understanding? Here we go ........again!

I just presented you with one of the most profound words in scientific language, Potential.
And you don't even bother to look at it, in order to gain a deeper understanding of universal values and functions.

I would consider that a positive step.......

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what might not?
Oh that's right that thing that hasn't been assumed in the first place.

How can you denounce freewill as an illusion with out knowing what you are denouncing?

 

Right and your concept does not create something from nothing? Read your Genesis. You just add an additional complication to the process, a pre-existing motivated God. Way to go with your exnihilo!

 

dealing with your obvious paranoia would be a great step to...
I have posted at least 3 posts that agree with you and you come back at me with this nonsense...

 

and what existed before the God you refer to ?
Do you even know what exnihilo means?
or
"Is God a mere metaphor for another metaphor called a butterfly?" ~ anon

re: the butterfly effect

 

I am not referring to a god at all. Read the definition of Potential. It has been one of the most defined words in all of language.
potential
SEE DEFINITION OF potential

• hidden
• likely
• possible
• probable
• budding
• future
• abeyant
• conceivable
• dormant
• embryonic
• imaginable
• implied
• inherent
• latent
• lurking
• plausible
• prepatent
• quiescent
• thinkable
• undeveloped
• unrealized
• within realm of possibility

continued......