And how can we keep in contact with you?
Reading between the lines, I think that Avatar had decided to leave long before he kicked up a fuss. Baron Max was just a convenient excuse.
Really, this is just another example of a member who wants to go out in what they regard as a blaze of glory.
Reading between the lines, I think that Avatar had decided to leave long before he kicked up a fuss. Baron Max was just a convenient excuse.
Really, this is just another example of a member who wants to go out in what they regard as a blaze of glory.
No doubt Avatar will be applauded by the usual cheer squad.
You report almost any of my posts, because you see insults and other big meanies everywhere, some would call your perception delusional. So maybe you should consider that the problem is within you, not outside?
You're a fallen angel that seeks to return to heaven through hate and violence, but all you accomplish in result is that you create more hell to yourself. Till it will destroy you.
Other members seem to have a good time and have no big problems. Of course there are some isolated cases, but you can't make an omelet without breaking any eggs.
Mods are humans not robots, and we are doing the best we can. We could do nothing and give up on Sciforums, but we are not doing that.
But it is you who lifted his tail, gave up and resigned. So who's the failure here?
And now you try to look big and powerful by trying to cause strife and conflict.
Oh and I am fully aware you are trying everything you can so that I reply to you and you can then twist my posts to fuel your propaganda warfare, but I'm not going to stand quiet just because you seem to be having a bad case of thought diarrhea. Handle me, o princess! Mods are not kittens you can kick about.
p.s. The policy is still a draft and hasn't been finalized yet.
I can only credit him for speaking up.
Here's the catch though. Something everyone keeps missing. There was no action against the member in question, aka Baron. It was a discussion about certain aspects of his posting which could be conceived as breaching the site rules. Ergo, the moderator in question proposed a manner in dealing with it and then left it open to discussion. Only two other moderators were on at the time and both disagreed with the OP. Before anyone else could log on and give an opinion, Avatar decided to leap forward 1k steps and post that a ban was imminent. That it was just a discussion (or more to the point, a proposal by one moderator to the rest), between the moderators and the administrators, about a plan of action was beside the point. So Avatar's actions were highly preemptive and a bit strange for those of us looking on. A ban was not imminent. Baron had not been banned. He hadn't even been officially warned. No action had been taken, so how exactly was the moderator in question supposed to be open about his actions?
Had Baron been banned to kingdom come, with no explanation or discussion whatsoever, then yes, one could find Avatar's move to be ethical and honourable. But he somehow wrongly assumed that Baron was going to be banned regardless and took action on something that may or may not have happened in the future. What he failed to recognise was that every single one of us could face a potential ban. I'm surprised he didn't take action on that either.
I fail to see the point of quoting bells missing the point?
1.) He doesn't want t ban BaronMax. In fact it is the opposite - he was standing up against those who wanted to ban BaronMax.
2.) Mods do not have the option to ignore members, anyway.
to-MAH-to to-MAY-to, perhaps?
I fail to see the point of quoting bells missing the point?
I've read through the thread in question, I can tell you that Avatar got personal with another moderator, their barbs got nasty and rather than just saying what should of been done and kept within the contraint's of the subforum, he went out of his way to do those things [Post openly, make a ban poll and draw attention to something, while undermining the Administration.], knowing of course the repercussions of his actions.
http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2057239&postcount=267
He also knew very well that Baron was at no time at risk of being banned or even warned. And again, I reiterate, he knew that Baron was not at risk of being banned or even warned.
You were banned for reposting moderated material. Something that has always resulted in a ban in the past, regardless of who did it. You have been here long enough to know the rules Baron.And yet, while all this shit was going on, Baron Max was, in fact, threatened with banishment, then subsequently actually and really banned!!! And, yeah, banned by Tiassa in a thread that he and I were having a heated discussion. He didn't like my comment, so he banned me!!
Now what do ya' have to say, Bells?
Baron Max
I answered before you asked, how extraordinary-Can I ask you a question? How long had Avatar been a moderator for?
He claimed to be someone who cares for human rights and ethical behaviour? Correct?
So, in light of his claims, why didn't he ever speak out before when similar discussions took place? Why now? Why didn't he ever publicly stand up for anyone else in all the time he has been a moderator here?
... It's like either getting his job, or getting good at it, gave him a keen eye for injustice. I was lucky enough to be born with one, but I think most people just genuinely aren't picking up on the injustice of how sciforums is run, including most mods.
Avatar was forcibly attuned to it, then he stumbled back into sciforums and was like "wtf?! This is all wrong...".
That would make a difference- if he really was certain baron wasn't going to be banned.He also knew very well that Baron was at no time at risk of being banned or even warned. And again, I reiterate, he knew that Baron was not at risk of being banned or even warned.
As I said, you only saw what he wanted you to see. You believe him? Good for you. I am not here to change your mind. I am just reminding you that you are only seeing and hearing what you want to see and hear and what he wanted you to see and hear.