Israeli/Hamas disregard for human life.

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  1. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Okay if you arabs and muslims are so intent on bitching about Israel why don't you try and take over Israel and make it into an Arab state and kill all the Jews?

    Oh yeah that's right, because your politicians and tacticians are such retards you guys have failed in the most amazing ways every single time you guys have tried. Stop threatening Israel like you can take it over at any time you feel because quite frankly your armies are so retarded they quite frankly take more time finding the keys to their tanks than actually learning how to drive.
     
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  3. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    you really can't see the difference?

    being decendent only means that in the past someone in your family was part of the group. being part of said group is not only being decendent from it but also have an unbroken chain through time of your family being there and if removed attempting to return.
     
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  5. p-brane Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know whether this really happened, but it wouldn't surprise me if it did since I can't deny that this specific phenomenon occurs in such situations. If I'd lived through a situation like this my feeling about it would depend on my personal experience. If I thought that the efforts to discover and neutralize collaborators - if there were any - we're not indiscriminant or unnecessarily brutal I would certainly understand. But hamas is well-known for their extreme and indiscriminant brutality in this regard and you shouldn't be surprised if palestinians aren't so understanding. After all, hamas operates purely by terror.

    But of course, as I posted, hamas went well beyond this, cynically and intentionally forcing their own people into situations that would maximize the number of civilian casualties to gain political points in the eyes of the world while nearly all of hamas itself retreated into safety. Now I ask you to put yourself in the place of these hapless victims of their own government's brutality, cowardice and hypocrisy and tell me that you have no problem with it.
     
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  7. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Recent Testimony of Hamas disregard for human life.

    It seems like the Palestinians in Gaza are trapped between a rock and a hard place:

    Hamas is rounding up Fatah sympathizers and torturing or executing them. Israel seems to have taken only a token regard for collateral damage.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...the-cost-ndash-and-assigns-blame-1522547.html
     
  8. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    hummmmmm SAM

    thats a bit harsh........... so you dont believe at all in migration!!!???
     
  9. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    No, she's a Zionist for Arabs.
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You know anyplace where "migration" involves putting the people who live there in a reservation on a diet?
     
  11. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    No I am asking you to explain the difference you see, your logic and reasoning in your statement.

    You have this bad habit of making these grandoise statements and then claim that your reasoning is sound.

    I don't think your reasoning for this statement can stand up to the light day.
     
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  12. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    There are several sources on this:
    They actually had Jews working for the Germans against the Jews.

    Testimonies from holocaust survivors are also available

    They had a militant group called ZOB, which murdered these collaborators
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warsaw_Ghetto_Uprising#Jewish_insurgents

     
  13. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, the collaborates who were sending their own people, Jews to the Gas Chambers, of Auschwitz, Sobibor, Treblinka, Dachau, one hell of a difference from what is happening in the Gaza.
     
  14. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Lets hear some testimony from Gaza:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...the-cost-ndash-and-assigns-blame-1522547.html

    But when it comes to attitudes to Hamas in the wake of the fighting, the popular jury among Palestinians in Gaza is very much out. Acknowledging that Hamas proclaimed a victory with the siege still in place, middle-class Gazans joke that "three more victories like this and there won't be any Gaza left".

    There are also fears that Hamas will tighten repressive measures against dissidents, after a wave of shootings and arrests. A Fatah activist, Eyad Obeid, says he was in a shop near his home last week when a 4x4 vehicle pulled up. Four masked men carrying AK-47s seized him, took him away and subjected him to an ordeal which ended with him being shot in his left leg below the knee. Fatah says there were dozens of similar incidents during and after the war. And this is beside the killings – admitted by Hamas – of those suspected of informing Israel of Hamas targets.

    Mr Obeid, who was not accused of informing, says he was repeatedly questioned about his Fatah connections and his previous job in Ramallah-run Preventative Security before being pulled out of the car and shot.

    And if the Israeli bombing all around them was not enough to worry about, the most horrifying moment of the war for the Najar family started at around 7.30pm on 4 January, when 10 masked, armed Palestinians in black tunics descended on the alley where the menfolk were gathered outside their house in northern Gaza City round a pot of tea over a wood fire, necessitated by the lack of electricity or cooking gas.

    The men all obeyed the gunmen's orders to lie on the ground except Hisham, 51, who asked the men what they wanted. Women and children came out from the house to see what was happening. One of the men slapped Hisham, others rose to intervene, and the gunmen opened fire. Hisham was killed, and 11 others were wounded, including his 70-year-old mother and her 12-year-old granddaughter. "For me a rocket from the Israelis would be better than this," said Mohammed Najar, 41, the dead man's brother. "The children are still terrified at what happened. They wet themselves at night."

    The family admits to supporting Fatah but says there was no reason to attack them; they are careful not to accuse Hamas but Mohammed complains that the faction, as the ruling authority in Gaza, has done nothing to investigate the crime.
     
  15. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Buffalo, stop.
    Your not getting anywhere

    Your argueing with people that support pedophilia, fanaticism, racism, sexism, murder, rape, genocide, holacaust and more

    These people are dirt and people like you and me can argue with dirt all day but in the end its just a mixture of crap, air, and rotting corpses.
     
  16. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, but it is fun to watch them spin and see the parts fly.
     
  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    You have claimed to have native american blood. So you are descendent from the native population of the americas. But could you say your part of the native population, no. You lack enough of the geographical, economic, and cultural connections( though this is just a guess given you stated beliefs, your economic standing and location) to be able to claim to be part of the native population. You have the ability to become part of said group if you build those connections and become part of that community.
     
  18. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Just as I thought no logic at all for your statement, you don't have a answer, you just spewed some words and thought you were brilliant, all you did is what any Parrot is capable of, repeat sounds that you heard with no tought to the sounds you are making.

    No exactly what is your rational for your statement.
     
  19. fedr808 1100101 Valued Senior Member

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    Who gives a shit pj? This is about Israel not about your hatred for the righteuous
     
  20. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Not really. There is a genocide taking place in Palestine. Betrayal is the same as desertion. Punishable by death.
     
  21. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Only fun in your strange and deluded world.

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  23. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    Your the last person to be calling anyone a parrot. All you do is regurgitate things your betters have thought and said.

    I already gave it to you. You as usual didn't understand it.
     
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