planets orbit like their stars vibrate ?

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by nebel, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Silly question but expected. It's science river, not "drag em out of your arse pseudoscience" you exclusively partake in! They have obviously looked in all parts.
    No evidence yet of any companion.
     
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  3. nebel

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    What part of the Night Sky have they looked ?

    Segura-Cox, Herschel data from ESA/Herschel/SPIRE/PACS/D. Arzoumanian
    ALMA ,
    Region L1709
    sory for the foreign language source.
     
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  5. river

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    nebel , english translation would be a good thing .
     
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  7. nebel

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    it basically calls the nascent stars, proto planetary rings seen by ALMA " siblings" or un-equal twins, not that the star had to be fully formed first, but as paddoboy pointed out, they are born in the the same cloud, not just in a rigid sequence. try google translate. ha ha.
     
  8. nebel

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    "Astronomers have found compelling evidence that planets start to form while infant stars are still growing.
    dust rings acting as cosmic cradles, where the seeds of planets form and take hold." quoted from
    Max-Planck-Gesellschaft. "Stars and planets grow up together as siblings." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 23 October 2020. <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/10/201023191029.htm>

    Dust rings asserted in this thread to reflect standing wave patterns in a dynamic system.

    " the interplay of centrifugal and magnetic forces in a disk surrounding the star plays a crucial role in the star's birth cry."
    quoted from:
    National Institutes of Natural Sciences. "ALMA hears birth cry of a massive baby star." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 12 June 2017. <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/06/170612115407.htm>.

    these stories relate to the thread's assertion, that the natural vibrations, "Eigenschwingungen" of a system , its mass, determines the orbits of its planets.
     
  9. river

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    Dust rings asserted in this thread to reflect standing wave patterns in a dynamic system.

    " the interplay of centrifugal and magnetic forces in a disk surrounding the star plays a crucial role in the star's birth cry."


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    Agreed , but also the galactic core , the globular centre . Where stars are formed .

    Next that is highlighted ;

    Agreed , As well as Rotation . Magnetic Fields , not only to each planetary body , but as well the Galactic Magnetic Field .

    And that there is a fluid Dynamic , three dimensionally , in the spaces between planets , ( in any system in this Universe ) .
     
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  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Gibberish.
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Reasonably correct....I left the unevidenced part last paragraph out.
    The bone of contention is that the collapsing conglomeration of dust and stuff to an eventual accretion disk, has now been verified in many systems, at various stages of proto-Sun and planetary formation.
    The gravitational interactions will determine the start of planetary/proto-Sun formations.
     
  12. river

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    Wouldn't though the gravity , by the star , take the dust rings for its self . ? Leaving little for any planet to become a planet .
     
  13. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    To answer that river, you need to be familiar with science...orbits in particular...and why the planets currently orbit the Sun....or why if our Sun should magically become a BH, all the planets would continue to orbit without change.
    Answers are in the cosmology section.
     
  14. river

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    Are you familiar , pad ?
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    reasonably familiar yes...as shown by the answers I have given you, and my threads and posts in the sciences section.
     
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    So give us a brief on your answers , your threads and posts .
     
  17. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Why? So you can troll? or claim some nonsensical one liner dismissal of? All the answers are given in the sciences and cosmology section. That you are unable to contribute to is not my concern, but obviously because you are unable to add anything worthwhile, other then gibberish and nonsense.
     
  18. river

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    So we can discuss .

    You never really discuss anything pad , you just " refer to " ..... , what ever , but never really discuss .
     
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  19. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    No, exactly what I said and why you are banned from the sciences...trolling.
    Yep, I refer to current scientific theories and knowledge...that which you reject in favour of your own delusional self grandeur inspired nonsense.
     
  20. river

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    How do you know this ?
     
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  21. river

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    So you can't discuss anything scientific , on your own . You have no thoughts of your own .
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Of course I do. No one needed to tell me that you are a dishonest gullible troll. The evidence is for all to see and why you are banned from the sciences.
    And on science, simply put, my thoughts align with the accepted scientific theories because of the evidence. Unlike you, I don't simply ignorantly reject all of mainstream because it is mainstream. You fail to recognise or understand that all mainstream was also hypothetical at one time.
     
  23. river

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    As I thought , no thoughts . Just repeat pad .
     

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