you say this, then why do you have a problem of giving jews the respect they deserve when it comes to the disgusting experements done on them?
Should we use data of Nazi's human experiences?
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... Not without precedent. Hundreds of thousands of American Japanese were segregated and interred simply for being Asian when America joined WW2. No different from the Jews, they walked in unprotesting because their protests simply weren't listened to and there was nothing else they could do - society in the main simply sat back and let it happen to them. "The Government must have its reasons...", yadda-yadda...Leopold99:
The adult men were cowards who didn't even fight back when being butchered by a mad scientist. I'll allow the children the benefit of childhood.
Baron Max:
Okay, my good man, I shall factor in some degree of ignorance. This is legitimate, to varying degrees, on the lower-levels of it all. But after a certain point, we have to speak of cowardice. Once you're in the camp and you're not doing something, something is definitely wrong. Would you not agree there?
The adult men were cowards who didn't even fight back when being butchered by a mad scientist. I'll allow the children the benefit of childhood.
Baron Max:
Okay, my good man, I shall factor in some degree of ignorance. This is legitimate, to varying degrees, on the lower-levels of it all. But after a certain point, we have to speak of cowardice. Once you're in the camp and you're not doing something, something is definitely wrong. Would you not agree there?
It was advantageous to the Germans to leave no witnesses.
the reason is simple.
germany made non aggression pacts with every single country he invaded.
then hitler delivers the blitz.
when hitler invaded denmark it took a grand total of 20 minutes to get from the borders to the capitol.
how can a country mount an effective defense against something like that?
wha ?
it's kind of too late when you are strapped down don't you think?
i can't believe it.
Leopold99:
You're being escorted to a "doctor's office" who was part of telling people where to go at the camp. Moreover, throughout the experiments you had various degrees of freedom, and afterwards, no attempts (if one survived) were made to attack him.
You're being escorted to a "doctor's office" who was part of telling people where to go at the camp. Moreover, throughout the experiments you had various degrees of freedom, and afterwards, no attempts (if one survived) were made to attack him.
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You'll have to forgive me here, James, but genuinely I really do have some not inconsiderable difficulty believing your actually being serious here with the responses you're coming out with. I'm not just saying this. Really, For whatever reason on my part I can only say I have great difficulty accepting another human being is actually capable of thinking this way - so I have to ask.
Are you being serious?
Mr. Anonymous:
Yes. I believe in bravery over life. Life is worthless, meaningless, and -only- worse things come from acting as a coward. It is truly the greatest of all evils.
Yes. I believe in bravery over life. Life is worthless, meaningless, and -only- worse things come from acting as a coward. It is truly the greatest of all evils.
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I see. Well, thank you for taking the trouble to answer, that's really all I needed to know. Saves time in the long run.
Sure thing.
Even people that did fight back, like the Russians, were captured by the hundreds of thousands in a single operation, and sent to camps where many of them died.
I have to agree with you, Prince James. Cowardics in, indeed, a great evil. But you might want to add something to that statement ....the cowardice of others often places brave men at even greater risk!
Baron Max
So are you saying that people should not fight against tyranny or conquest?
Baron Max
No, I'm saying that even great armies did not have the ability to resist the German military forces and became victims.
Many Jews were brave enough to do what they thought was best for their families, that is, stay with them. They thought they would be sent to work, not be murdered en masse.
They were not dissimilar to the many Japanese Americans placed in internment camps by the US. Should they have fought back as well?
Many Jews were brave enough to do what they thought was best for their families, that is, stay with them. They thought they would be sent to work, not be murdered en masse.
They were not dissimilar to the many Japanese Americans placed in internment camps by the US. Should they have fought back as well?
Oh, I agree! And I'm not saying that they should have fought when they didn't know what the fuck was going on or what was to happen. But even then, the option might not have been anything but idiotic suicide. Where there's life, there's hope ....which is what they sought.
No, not necessarily. Besides, they fought bravely PRIOR to being captured ...that's a big difference. But they, too, didn't really know what awaited them in capture ...even if they'd hear rumors, etc.
Baron Max
I'm talking about Japanese civilians who were rounded up and put in camps since we didn't trust them, not soldiers.
so, according to you the men of the bataan death march were cowards because they didn't fight back?
and like spidey pointed out the jews were not unlike the japanese americans at that time. were they also cowards?
it doesn't matter, if i had my way about it the victims would be vindicated.
Although I can't know what Prince James was thinking, but those men were brave before they were captured. And from all accounts, there were many who were still being brave during the death march ...helping to carry their buddies who couldn't walk, or were sick, etc.
Bravery doesn't necessarily mean fighting with a gun and a knife to the death against 4,262 enemy soldiers!! There's many types and kinds of bravery.
No, actually I'd call them brave! They were all told exactly why they were being detained, and most of them, even while denying that they would help the Japanese, went peacefully to the camps. Yeah, that was pretty brave to obey their nation's orders ...even if, in hindsight, it was pretty shitty of us to do that.
Vindicated? How? Who? Why? Huh??
Baron Max