Unexplained "atoms" near a street lamp

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by victor terence jones, Oct 24, 2019.

  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    at the risk of sounding a little insensitive, which i do not.
    after a long and productive career building, you would have spent a great deal of time outdoors.
    this outdoor exposure does stuff to your eyes.
    depending on your diet and if you wore proper sunglasses and protective glasses this would be minimized.
    however, given your age, it was not the done thing in those days to look after yourself in modern concepts of safe work practice.

    i hope your eyes are ok
    i expect you go to have regular exams etc ... ?

    given your age i gather your skills on video editing are not as polished as the average YouTube blogger with an editing suite for video at your disposal.
    thus editing and adding videos from cel phones is not an easy task.
    i am not up with such software programs but there may be some free ones that might give you better easier editing and video production.

    see if you can find the raw video
    upload that raw video to your you-tube page, then drop the link in here.

    preferably loss-less and on maximum detail possible without any rendering to large aspect ratios
    preferably same aspect ratio if possible.

    it can get very tricky and easy to get lost in one part of the video production and conversion etc.

    try and keep it as simple as possible.

    this seems a little out there
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    well here it is
    the elusive video
    you appear to be trying to make a psychedelic video with music attached to it using strobing lights and flashes.

    you appear to have got a plastic rubberized sheet and be filming through the rubberized sheet into a light source then moving it with your hand to alter the light coming into the lens

    it appears you are attempting to make "mesmerizing" videos to music

    i would class your videos as requiring a warming for epileptic people

    the images created between the camera computer attempting to render data from lack of light source and add it like a skin to the picture is obvious and well documented. playing with the light source so reflective lights traverse the rubberized plastic sheet seems to make interesting light movements

    what were you attempting to achieve ?
    something to play in front of a group of people while you played music to it ?
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    • Please back up any accusations of fraud you make against another person with appropriate supporting evidence, in future.
    i quite like this one
    how you use a green filter and spot light to make an almost iridescent green light on snow flakes falling
    then you speed it up and get a really amazing effect of green almost fluorescent lines flashing across the screen as the snow flakes speed up.
    it is quite clever using a dome shaped lens over the cell phone camera lens so it creates a false back ground looking like a light effect
    you then get the rain or snow to come from nowhere as it comes from out of the colour dept visible by the flare from the lens cover.
    quite clever in deed.
    you manipulating of the cover over the lens to create the effect is quit well done
    though you are not good enough to fool me.
    i am guessing you are asking church types to help pay for your rent and new special camera equipment and special preyer meetings and fund special discovery events to find the magical saviour lord and the magicalness spirit healing magic to help little old and sick bible folk and asking for donations to speak with their departed loved ones ?

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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

    I would explain it like waves in water. When two peaks come together, they are added and get twice as tall. When a peak and a trough come together, they are cancelled out. The visible effects in light are orders of magnitude larger than atoms, even though they are made of photons. You never see an individual photon (or atom).

    Likewise, it's possible to do this with sound waves, hence the invention of noise cancelling headphones. Such devices work by using a microphone to detect the incoming sound wave, and generating its opposite, cancelling out the original wave, resulting in silence (if they worked perfectly, which they do not).
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

    I could use a little explanation about the video in post 9.
    Is this a video of a computer screen playing a video on Youtube?
    Some reason why you can't just post a link to the YouTube video?
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

    Very simple test:
    Wipe your lens clean.
    Retake the same pic.
    The giant dots will be moved or even gone.
  10. victor terence jones Registered Member

    Thanks for your comments, a lot of reading matter, from what I have read I realized they were to large to be atoms,but could not find another answer, I will upload the original video, filmed in a snowstorm. this "atom" section is towards end of the original 324, I then clipped this section to make video 325. I was asked by Rainbow Singularity who I was Grooming for, that could not be further from the truth, I am a 72 year old trying to put this on record while I still remember it. Video 401 is a combination of the videos put together, just the important bits to enable someone to get their head around it. all the videos are sections or slowed versions of the original 324, the first part shows the snowflakes coming down (blue in colour), then towards the end the "atoms" appear, How can you explain the explosion which creates many more "atoms".
  11. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    i do not see any mysterious science and logic defying things going on
    someone (you making the video?) is outside during a light snow with gusting winds
    filming with a green light possibly to get a light enhancement from light gathering technology in the camera
    an obvious intentional action
    like night scopes/night vision-enhancing scopes etc.
    the person with the cell phone (it looks more like a camera but i wont get into that)
    then directs the view upward and through a rubberized translucent sheet which is being manipulated and pulled around by the same person holding the camera most likely
    it is probably attached to a fixed object.
    you can clearly see the person adjusting it and stretching it to adjust the desired effect of the drops of water creating flare and data squelch in the camera resolution.

    you may was well be standing naked in front of an audience with a dead road kill animal while pretending its alive and making sounds and talking to the audience.

    i have watched more crypto zoology sighting, alien sighting & ufo sighting videos than i could possibly count
    your one doesn't pass the first glance

    your angels will help you if you send all money now seems quite obvious though

    poor bumbling old honest jesus carpenter needs a few hundred dollars to pay for his next months (medical bills)gin supply and gambling habit

  12. victor terence jones Registered Member

    I am astounded by your blinkered view, my way or the highway. You have accused me of fraud, deceipt,and anything that enters your mind, you are not even saying I think you might be doing this or that, you are straight out saying it, no doubt, your scientific mind is superior to my old mind. The statement that my eyes are damaged by being out in the sun to long, my phone took the video not my eyes, and for your information nothing was added to the phone, just a basic mobile and the claim I am scamming people is unbelievable.
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  14. victor terence jones Registered Member

    I hope you are a 1 off, I am prepared to answer any evidence question but I refuse to be abused by a pompous twit, these comments have been reported.
  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member


    love how you insert the word "evidence" to self validate what you will and wont answer regardless of the question being scientific or not.
    you can just dismiss science questions saying "its not an evidence question"
    you sound like a cheap politician on election night quiz

    next play ...
    ... ready set ... "its all your fault"
  16. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

    Looks like you recorded a snowfall. What is the big deal? What are we supposed to be seeing here?
  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member


    Why didn't you respond to my previous post?

    Seeing the full video, it looks like what you've got there is some lens flare and a wet lens, and that's about it. It's hard to tell because you were obviously waving the camera around all over the place while you were filming - probably because you noticed the interesting streaky effect you were getting. That, by the way, could be put down to the low background light level. Every time you point the camera from the dark sky towards the street light or other light source, the camera tries to readjust to the light level.

    In parts of the video I can see your fingers wiping across the camera lens.

    What's the mystery here? The dark spots you call "atoms" are most likely water droplets on the lens.

    Also, did you have the camera on macro mode or something?
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  18. victor terence jones Registered Member

    Hi James,
    Sorry I have not replied to your last post, I was working all day yesterday in the rain, by the time I got home, I looked at the first posts by a person called singularity, I googled that and it is about a robot, the way he spoke to me just about sums him up.
    To get back to you, I started doing videos about 3 years ago after seeing faces in clouds, the first one was so real I was fascinated as to why, as to this video, I was experimenting with snow after filming into fog and seeing hundreds of multicoloured orbs coming at the camera, with the snow videos I was having comments like lens flare and then someone said if it was lens related as the blue snowflakes were coming between the camera and the lens without distorting the "flare"it cannot be lens related, to me the "atoms" in video 401 at 2:49 are seen exploding and 4 become 13, to me that is not just 2 raindrops colliding, but I could be wrong, that is why I came to a science forum for info on things I do not understand and then research with that extra knowledge, if it is nothing then that is ok but I want to assess it for myself with help from as many people as possible.
  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

    As human beings, we're "programmed" to find faces, sometimes even where there are none. It's called pareidolia. (For fun, try a google image search on that word.)

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  20. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

    So what have is poor quality video of a snow fall under a streetlight through a wet lens. So it is nothing.
    Glad to help!
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member


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